1 00:00:33,71 --> 00:00:35,50 Independent media is the hope. 2 00:01:43,56 --> 00:01:48,33 We are ready to get started in my name is Dr Harry walking I'm the president of the 3 00:01:48,34 --> 00:01:51,80 second middle chapter of the visions for Social Responsibility and I'd like to 4 00:01:51,81 --> 00:01:58,72 welcome you to this special event tonight. We are very 5 00:01:58,73 --> 00:02:05,60 fortunate to have with us Dr comma march on and Dr jar they are 6 00:02:05,61 --> 00:02:10,81 on our right to health care tour and they come today directly from San Francisco 7 00:02:10,82 --> 00:02:15,73 where they gave presentations at the annual meaning of the American Public Health 8 00:02:15,74 --> 00:02:19,72 Association so we'd like to walk among them to sack a mountain for Dr Murray tone 9 00:02:19,73 --> 00:02:24,05 a second visit because she was here eight years ago. 10 00:02:30,98 --> 00:02:36,57 Tonight's event is co-sponsored by Jewish Voice for Peace and Physicians for Social 11 00:02:36,58 --> 00:02:41,67 Responsibility with the endorsement of Sacramento area Peace Action be 12 00:02:41,68 --> 00:02:44,92 a star believes that access to quality health care is 13 00:02:44,93 --> 00:02:50,20 a human right not only in our country but around the world and tonight we will hear 14 00:02:50,21 --> 00:02:54,11 about the current state of health care in occupied Palestine and learn what some of 15 00:02:54,12 --> 00:03:00,13 the challenges are in providing comprehensive health services our speakers tonight 16 00:03:00,37 --> 00:03:05,59 as I already said and introduced our Dr Martineau now founder of Physicians for 17 00:03:05,60 --> 00:03:09,85 Human Rights Israel and Dr Drew are of the Palestinian Medical Relief Society 18 00:03:11,72 --> 00:03:15,20 Physicians for Human Rights Israel was formed in one thousand nine hundred eighty 19 00:03:15,21 --> 00:03:21,59 eight at the beginning of the intifada it was formed by Dr March own an Israeli and 20 00:03:21,63 --> 00:03:27,17 Palestinian physicians motivated by the conviction that quote Every person has the 21 00:03:27,18 --> 00:03:32,92 right to health in its widest possible sense as defined by the principles of human 22 00:03:32,93 --> 00:03:38,00 rights social justice and medical ethics their activities are 23 00:03:38,01 --> 00:03:43,65 a mixture of the direct delivery of health care services and education campaigning 24 00:03:43,66 --> 00:03:48,15 against Barack bureaucratic restrictions that prevent health care access and 25 00:03:48,16 --> 00:03:52,19 speaking out against the policies and repression that creates the disadvantages in 26 00:03:52,20 --> 00:03:56,12 the first place. In the late one nine hundred ninety S. 27 00:03:56,13 --> 00:04:00,19 Dark Tomar tone was especially active against the torture of Palestinian prisoners 28 00:04:00,84 --> 00:04:04,40 her campaign culminating in one thousand nine hundred nine with the Israeli Supreme 29 00:04:04,41 --> 00:04:11,36 Court making it illegal later that year hsien ph R I received Israel's highest 30 00:04:11,37 --> 00:04:13,03 human rights honor the 31 00:04:13,04 --> 00:04:19,71 a mill. Groans like Award for Human Rights in two thousand and ten she 32 00:04:19,72 --> 00:04:25,00 accepted the Right Livelihood Award described as the alternate Nobel Prize on 33 00:04:25,01 --> 00:04:31,54 behalf of Ph P H R I in their work Dr alarmed 34 00:04:31,55 --> 00:04:35,77 Girard its director of community based rehabilitation for the northern West Bank 35 00:04:35,78 --> 00:04:40,31 for the Palestinian Medical Relief Society PM R.S. 36 00:04:40,32 --> 00:04:42,13 Formed in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine as 37 00:04:42,14 --> 00:04:46,15 a grassroots community based Palestinian Health Organization is 38 00:04:46,16 --> 00:04:52,96 a nonprofit voluntary and one of the largest health N.G.O.s in Palestine pm R S's 39 00:04:52,97 --> 00:04:58,60 national health programs emphasize prevention education community participation and 40 00:04:58,61 --> 00:05:04,19 empowerment programs include community community based rehabilitation children's 41 00:05:04,20 --> 00:05:09,80 health health education cycle social assessment and counselling volunteer programs 42 00:05:09,81 --> 00:05:14,58 women's health youth programs and mobile clinics B.M.R. 43 00:05:14,59 --> 00:05:20,43 Asked operates twenty six primary health care centers in the West Bank and Gaza Dr 44 00:05:20,44 --> 00:05:21,20 dryer is also 45 00:05:21,21 --> 00:05:25,23 a member of the Steering Committee of the Palestinian non-governmental organizations 46 00:05:25,24 --> 00:05:28,32 network an umbrella organization comprising 47 00:05:28,33 --> 00:05:33,31 a hundred and thirty two member organizations its overall goals to reinforce the 48 00:05:33,32 --> 00:05:37,94 role played by N.G.O.s through contributing to the development and empowerment of 49 00:05:37,95 --> 00:05:43,03 civil society within an independent Palestinian state based on the principles of 50 00:05:43,04 --> 00:05:50,01 democracy social justice and respect for human rights he gives me great pleasure to 51 00:05:50,02 --> 00:05:53,21 turn the program over to doctors more tone and you are. 52 00:06:02,56 --> 00:06:03,21 It's really 53 00:06:03,46 --> 00:06:09,00 a pleasure for me and Dr Mohamad Martin to be here in Sacramento for me it's the 54 00:06:09,01 --> 00:06:15,70 first time for Dr Martin this is the second time. Actually 55 00:06:15,74 --> 00:06:22,34 we with Dr Hama were here in this trip attending mainly the 56 00:06:23,25 --> 00:06:30,20 conference which is the American Public Health Association presenting. Actually 57 00:06:30,21 --> 00:06:35,82 the our work together and our perspective to the situation in Palestine with regard 58 00:06:35,83 --> 00:06:41,03 to health sector health services and challenges that are facing health 59 00:06:41,04 --> 00:06:46,35 professionals health or going to work health organizations in Palestine at the same 60 00:06:46,36 --> 00:06:52,74 time also we were presenting our cooperation as you know defenders for human rights 61 00:06:52,75 --> 00:06:57,54 whether Israelis and Palestinians and how we cooperate in order to improve access 62 00:06:57,55 --> 00:07:03,61 for quality care and also to present our perspectives that health care is 63 00:07:04,14 --> 00:07:10,69 about evil rights is about. Respecting human rights and respecting human dignity 64 00:07:11,02 --> 00:07:17,59 and my presentation actually I will try to focus on first our perspective too to 65 00:07:17,60 --> 00:07:23,48 health and how Medical Relief Society and other health organizations where are 66 00:07:23,49 --> 00:07:28,99 responsive to health needs of the population during the last maybe twenty or more 67 00:07:29,00 --> 00:07:35,85 years and at the same time how organizations especially working in the 68 00:07:35,86 --> 00:07:40,27 health field have been instrumental in building the resilience of molesting and 69 00:07:40,28 --> 00:07:47,17 people and contribute to contributing in the overall national you know movement 70 00:07:47,42 --> 00:07:49,46 against occupation for 71 00:07:49,47 --> 00:07:56,16 a liberation and for freedom of the policy and people. Lastly we will say 72 00:07:56,17 --> 00:08:02,89 something about maybe our. Joint cooperation with regard to. How we 73 00:08:03,43 --> 00:08:10,36 do some work in improving access of people to health services 74 00:08:11,20 --> 00:08:14,58 first of all I would like to say something about policy 75 00:08:14,59 --> 00:08:20,86 a medical relief commuters. A medical medical relief society which were actually 76 00:08:20,87 --> 00:08:27,18 before in the seventy's early eighty's it was committees that were established on 77 00:08:27,19 --> 00:08:32,26 voluntary versus grassroots organizations organization that has been established on 78 00:08:32,27 --> 00:08:39,12 voluntary basis. Composed of health professionals doctors and part of the 79 00:08:39,13 --> 00:08:45,10 CAN staff as well and the main idea was to provide health services for the poor 80 00:08:45,11 --> 00:08:51,34 population marginalized groups and to outreach people in their remote areas at the 81 00:08:51,35 --> 00:08:57,10 same time to contribute in building the resilience of Philistines to confront and 82 00:08:57,11 --> 00:09:02,54 to cope maybe with the difficulties that are posed by the Israeli occupation and 83 00:09:03,04 --> 00:09:10,01 also at the same time we when stablished we were trying also to present. 84 00:09:11,06 --> 00:09:11,82 To introduce 85 00:09:11,86 --> 00:09:18,15 a new perspective. Of Health which is based on community health approach. 86 00:09:20,90 --> 00:09:24,70 Health and Human Rights we strongly believe that health is 87 00:09:24,74 --> 00:09:31,26 a human rights. We don't believe that health is just merely an absence of disease 88 00:09:31,54 --> 00:09:34,39 it's rather a status of well being good at 89 00:09:34,40 --> 00:09:39,86 a social or mental wellbeing and that could not be guaranteed I mean the overall 90 00:09:39,87 --> 00:09:45,89 concept of Health and Human Rights could not be going to read without ensuring 91 00:09:45,96 --> 00:09:52,46 basic civil and political he wants rights of the people. P M A R 92 00:09:52,47 --> 00:09:54,44 S as an organization as 93 00:09:54,45 --> 00:10:01,10 a health organizations organization believes first and foremost in social justice. 94 00:10:02,23 --> 00:10:04,45 And we believe that social justice is 95 00:10:04,46 --> 00:10:11,25 a way to provide people people with better health so our perspective on this is 96 00:10:11,45 --> 00:10:12,67 social justice is 97 00:10:12,68 --> 00:10:19,65 a base for ensuring. Quality of health for the people Second we believe in 98 00:10:19,66 --> 00:10:24,54 community participation and in community empowerment without the participation of 99 00:10:24,55 --> 00:10:31,45 community we cannot talk about quality of health care services and also we believe 100 00:10:31,46 --> 00:10:37,26 in an integrated approach that it's not only medical personnel or or you know 101 00:10:37,27 --> 00:10:42,58 professionals that are responsible for providing health care health care it should 102 00:10:42,59 --> 00:10:45,46 be looked at as a multiethnic Tauriel you know 103 00:10:45,47 --> 00:10:50,67 a provision where other sectors especially the education sector should be involved 104 00:10:50,68 --> 00:10:57,26 in this process. B.M.R. 105 00:10:57,27 --> 00:10:57,78 S. 106 00:10:57,97 --> 00:11:05,23 Where King in stable situation this has been the case for around 107 00:11:05,38 --> 00:11:10,58 thirty years and still is by the way it is unstable situation we call it 108 00:11:10,92 --> 00:11:17,17 a chronic emergency that we have been. Living through all those years 109 00:11:17,57 --> 00:11:24,25 second lack of access which is the right word lack of access for health and medical 110 00:11:24,26 --> 00:11:30,81 services it's not because people cannot afford you know services or. Cannot 111 00:11:30,86 --> 00:11:37,35 get those services but the idea that people physically are abstracted to get 112 00:11:37,36 --> 00:11:43,59 the services because of political considerations because of political factors and 113 00:11:43,60 --> 00:11:49,23 the last one. The whole situation I mean the whole. 114 00:11:51,69 --> 00:11:58,53 Dynamics of the complex of the political and social situation has resulted 115 00:11:58,54 --> 00:12:05,07 in what we call social suffering so people are under social stress under 116 00:12:05,08 --> 00:12:11,21 psychological stress all through like decades and without having their problems 117 00:12:11,25 --> 00:12:17,48 solved so this is the overall context where the health professionals. And the 118 00:12:18,22 --> 00:12:24,87 policy of Medical Relief Society is working. In brief in words in very 119 00:12:24,88 --> 00:12:28,35 simple straightforward words Palestine is 120 00:12:28,92 --> 00:12:34,50 a country under siege and this is just the picture of the world by the way the 121 00:12:34,51 --> 00:12:40,43 world has. Already has been in parts of the world that has been built 122 00:12:40,91 --> 00:12:47,57 almost six hundred kilometers on the Palestinian land. Few words about the 123 00:12:47,58 --> 00:12:54,07 history of the conflict the conflict has been there now for more than sixty four 124 00:12:54,38 --> 00:13:00,33 years and some people say even more than sixty four he says but there is 125 00:13:00,34 --> 00:13:06,23 a lot was devastating on Palestinians and I think on Israelis as well 126 00:13:07,20 --> 00:13:13,19 millions have been turned into. Who are living in Palestine fled to other Arab 127 00:13:13,20 --> 00:13:16,37 countries in one thousand nine hundred four and in one thousand nine hundred seven 128 00:13:16,77 --> 00:13:18,14 now millions of poor 129 00:13:18,15 --> 00:13:24,28 a million refugee population are living outside Palestine Palestinians second 130 00:13:25,23 --> 00:13:31,68 the whole situation have been of oppression. Depreciation 131 00:13:31,95 --> 00:13:37,87 humiliation and exclusion these are the processes that are taking place at 132 00:13:37,91 --> 00:13:42,03 different levels whether politically or socially. 133 00:13:46,62 --> 00:13:53,07 I just want to recall. Mr Dugard who is 134 00:13:53,08 --> 00:13:59,81 a very well known figure in human rights field he said that the whole 135 00:13:59,82 --> 00:14:04,85 history between one thousand nine hundred seven until now of the Palestinian 136 00:14:04,86 --> 00:14:11,75 territories could be correct characterized by these three words one is military 137 00:14:11,76 --> 00:14:18,63 occupation second is colonization prayer process it's not simply just military 138 00:14:18,89 --> 00:14:22,66 occupation but also building corners inside policing 139 00:14:22,67 --> 00:14:28,68 a learned and moving population Israeli population from Israel to the 140 00:14:29,32 --> 00:14:35,02 Palestinian territories and according to international law this is considered as 141 00:14:35,03 --> 00:14:35,87 a war crime by 142 00:14:35,88 --> 00:14:42,24 a year for us and third is racial discrimination which is most important now 143 00:14:42,65 --> 00:14:49,49 after forty years of this process we can say that there are two systems inside the 144 00:14:49,50 --> 00:14:55,76 Palestinian territories one for the Palestinians and one for the Israeli settlers 145 00:14:56,57 --> 00:15:01,76 and the racial discrimination that has been developed into 146 00:15:01,77 --> 00:15:05,18 a kind of official policy of Israel is practically 147 00:15:05,22 --> 00:15:10,52 a practice not only against Palestinians inside the present territories but also 148 00:15:10,53 --> 00:15:14,89 against Palestinians living inside Israel and by the way those who are living 149 00:15:14,90 --> 00:15:19,34 inside the way there are almost one million and six hundred thousand people 150 00:15:20,20 --> 00:15:27,19 Palestinians in addition to that. And I think in addition to these 151 00:15:27,20 --> 00:15:32,63 three major character sticks I think what we are also recalling. 152 00:15:34,72 --> 00:15:35,10 Is 153 00:15:35,11 --> 00:15:41,81 a social phenomena of social injustice or social injustices that have been there in 154 00:15:42,08 --> 00:15:45,19 the Palestinian territories this is just 155 00:15:45,72 --> 00:15:51,21 a map that illustrates I mean the West Bank including of course the West Bank 156 00:15:51,22 --> 00:15:57,37 including Jerusalem with the population. That are there almost in the West Bank and 157 00:15:57,37 --> 00:16:04,37 . Around four hundred thirty four million people. In Israel there are 158 00:16:04,41 --> 00:16:09,07 like seven million people but if you calculate you know the equation between 159 00:16:09,87 --> 00:16:15,16 Palestinians and Jews within what we call the mandated Palestine the historical 160 00:16:15,17 --> 00:16:21,49 Palestine it's almost fifty percent fifty percent but what we have now actually is 161 00:16:21,50 --> 00:16:28,13 a racial discrimination system that is ruling you know the. The population there. 162 00:16:29,45 --> 00:16:32,43 Oh slow. People talk about or slow 163 00:16:32,44 --> 00:16:37,79 a lot also has been signed here in Washington in one nine hundred ninety three and 164 00:16:37,80 --> 00:16:44,32 when signed people were hoping that this will end as we say with 165 00:16:44,36 --> 00:16:51,32 happy you know and. Peace will prevail between Palestinians and Israelis and by the 166 00:16:51,33 --> 00:16:56,25 way was meant to be in two stages one is what we call. 167 00:16:59,14 --> 00:17:05,90 Temporary state stage and the other one is paramount and stage unfortunately all 168 00:17:05,91 --> 00:17:09,30 slow has led to more that 169 00:17:09,31 --> 00:17:15,68 a relation of the situation and look at this map. When you left 170 00:17:16,19 --> 00:17:22,84 the red spots out of settlements Israel has taken advantage of 171 00:17:22,98 --> 00:17:28,08 signing this agreement and those five years that were supposed to be as 172 00:17:28,09 --> 00:17:32,67 a temporary stage were tell first of all turned into 173 00:17:33,33 --> 00:17:39,68 a permanent one and at the same time Israel took advantage to move more than two 174 00:17:39,69 --> 00:17:45,88 hundred thousand settlers inside the area of the West Bank and building this red 175 00:17:45,89 --> 00:17:50,92 spots area. And if you can imagine that after this we could have 176 00:17:50,93 --> 00:17:57,09 a Palestinian state. I mean what Israel has done during the last one thousand years 177 00:17:57,42 --> 00:18:02,29 is just destroying the possibility of having 178 00:18:02,30 --> 00:18:07,83 a two state solution and instead of concluding on a peace agreement apparently 179 00:18:07,84 --> 00:18:13,54 a peace agreement in one thousand nine hundred ninety what happened was on the 180 00:18:13,55 --> 00:18:19,04 contrary actually deterioration at all levels including building the wall. 181 00:18:20,67 --> 00:18:27,40 Separating the Palestinians from each others and imposing new measures measures 182 00:18:27,41 --> 00:18:33,48 that have not have not been there ever during the last forty years what is 183 00:18:33,49 --> 00:18:38,85 happening on the ground now is. In reality it's just. 184 00:18:40,52 --> 00:18:47,43 Destroying or maybe affecting the cohesion of the Palestinian people actually what 185 00:18:47,44 --> 00:18:53,71 we are having now the Palestinian area or territories have have been turned into 186 00:18:53,97 --> 00:19:00,80 three segregated completely segregated locations one is the Gaza Strip one 187 00:19:00,81 --> 00:19:05,51 is the West Bank and one is Jerusalem and people Palestinians cannot move between 188 00:19:05,52 --> 00:19:08,78 those three areas so each like 189 00:19:09,07 --> 00:19:16,02 a. Cluster of people cannot have this continuation with 190 00:19:16,03 --> 00:19:21,23 the their brothers and sisters and you know other community members. 191 00:19:23,66 --> 00:19:29,77 Access I would like also to emphasize on this that the main phenomena that we are 192 00:19:29,78 --> 00:19:36,62 facing is. Limited access to health services and to other ways services as well. 193 00:19:38,02 --> 00:19:44,62 And we talk about not only the physical the prevention of 194 00:19:44,63 --> 00:19:51,46 physical access but also making people making access for health 195 00:19:51,47 --> 00:19:57,35 services more difficult for people this is just an illustration about the closure 196 00:19:57,36 --> 00:20:01,80 regime of the checkpoint regime as we call it and according you know to many 197 00:20:01,81 --> 00:20:08,71 figures there were like six hundred. Checkpoints located all over the 198 00:20:08,72 --> 00:20:14,98 West Bank city getting pristine in areas from each other's And who decides actually 199 00:20:14,99 --> 00:20:21,50 whether this woman is need for hospitalization the need for medical care is not 200 00:20:21,51 --> 00:20:23,22 a doctor is not an heiress is not 201 00:20:23,23 --> 00:20:30,02 a health professional but the soldier. Who decides exactly and out of this we 202 00:20:30,03 --> 00:20:36,04 have registered cases of people of women who delivered those checkpoints of some 203 00:20:36,05 --> 00:20:42,34 women who have been. You know. Inflicted the harms were 204 00:20:42,35 --> 00:20:45,24 complications of you know there are 205 00:20:45,25 --> 00:20:50,26 a delivery have happened and we have registered cases of people who have died 206 00:20:50,30 --> 00:20:56,07 actually because of the prevention of you know moving to health facilities so 207 00:20:56,08 --> 00:20:58,45 access problem in my mind is 208 00:20:58,49 --> 00:21:05,05 a major problem when it comes to the Palestinian context obstruction you know those 209 00:21:05,06 --> 00:21:11,11 are the what we call them gates around the world where you know Palestinians are 210 00:21:11,12 --> 00:21:15,43 living on both sides but there are blocked off by the keys and the kids are with 211 00:21:15,44 --> 00:21:19,67 the soldiers and whenever they want to open them they open them and whenever they 212 00:21:19,68 --> 00:21:26,45 close them they just closed them in. Front of the people and this is just 213 00:21:26,46 --> 00:21:32,27 a sign that has been put by the Army that this area is for Been To You know enter 214 00:21:33,05 --> 00:21:38,56 by you. Especially the medical stuff by no other. 215 00:21:39,60 --> 00:21:44,99 Residents that are not residing in this area. Over to just 216 00:21:45,00 --> 00:21:51,19 a few words about poverty because we believe that health when when we talk about 217 00:21:51,20 --> 00:21:51,77 health it's 218 00:21:51,86 --> 00:21:58,49 a social phenomenon and we believe that poverty. Is leading to low education low 219 00:21:58,50 --> 00:22:04,86 social class and low income and inequalities and this affects the overall health 220 00:22:05,07 --> 00:22:10,63 situation and this is our understanding where poverty is completely linked with the 221 00:22:10,64 --> 00:22:16,68 health status of the population and we also believe in the social determinants that 222 00:22:16,69 --> 00:22:23,33 are affecting or impacting the health conditions of people and I just listed three 223 00:22:23,34 --> 00:22:29,17 conditions that I so important to just. Put in front of you 224 00:22:30,09 --> 00:22:35,76 according to many studies by the way we have restarted standard Crohn's growth 225 00:22:36,31 --> 00:22:41,12 amongst children due to illness Russia and of course you can link it to the 226 00:22:41,13 --> 00:22:46,09 political situation and to the social situation Second we have 227 00:22:46,13 --> 00:22:50,10 a very serious problem when it comes to social suffering because social suffering 228 00:22:50,83 --> 00:22:52,14 resulted in 229 00:22:52,18 --> 00:22:58,70 a kind of. Mental ill will be that let me say it 230 00:22:59,14 --> 00:23:03,36 in this way. Yes we are facing 231 00:23:03,37 --> 00:23:08,94 a very serious problems when it comes to mental well being of the population and 232 00:23:08,95 --> 00:23:14,22 the last condition that I just wanted to share with you is the and see the problem 233 00:23:14,23 --> 00:23:20,39 which is not communicable disease problem which is rising we talk about the rise in 234 00:23:20,80 --> 00:23:27,62 you know cancer patients talk about the rise of cardiovascular diseases 235 00:23:28,57 --> 00:23:31,69 and we talk about rise of diabetes for instance 236 00:23:32,35 --> 00:23:37,92 a considerable amount of our people are suffering from diabetes. And whenever you 237 00:23:37,93 --> 00:23:43,18 talk about Palestine from one side you have poverty and you have diseases for the 238 00:23:43,19 --> 00:23:46,15 third world. And from the other side you have 239 00:23:46,16 --> 00:23:52,36 a rise in non-communicable diseases so the picture there is very complicated and 240 00:23:52,37 --> 00:23:58,81 very. Strange responding I mean what we do is just 241 00:23:58,82 --> 00:24:04,20 responding to all those needs especially with regard to access and this is exactly 242 00:24:04,21 --> 00:24:11,00 what we do with. Our group we try to outreach people and we try 243 00:24:11,01 --> 00:24:18,01 to do some looming. Vocus see where career with regard to human rights and 244 00:24:18,02 --> 00:24:20,73 violation of human rights we did 245 00:24:20,74 --> 00:24:27,56 a lot of. You know where on the issues 246 00:24:27,57 --> 00:24:33,78 of how to defend him rights when it comes to the violation of 247 00:24:34,25 --> 00:24:41,00 health rights of the population and. Our friend here also mentioned the work of 248 00:24:41,72 --> 00:24:46,82 Physicians for Human Rights and the closer home in particular about to defend the 249 00:24:46,83 --> 00:24:52,24 defense about defending the rights of the present the rights of prisoners which is 250 00:24:52,28 --> 00:24:59,13 very important. We also believe in social action we don't believe 251 00:24:59,14 --> 00:25:04,36 that health is just merely about providing services maybe in community manner but 252 00:25:04,37 --> 00:25:11,27 also we believe that social action is also part of health responsibility and 253 00:25:11,78 --> 00:25:17,21 here our friend also said something about the social responsibility of medical 254 00:25:17,22 --> 00:25:23,16 stuff we do it in maybe other parents but it's the same maybe I believe 255 00:25:23,61 --> 00:25:28,75 understanding that medical stuff has this social responsibility for the issues 256 00:25:28,76 --> 00:25:35,75 related to their community. That's we whenever we talk about social 257 00:25:35,76 --> 00:25:40,73 responsibility we are talking about strengthening the resilience of the people at 258 00:25:40,77 --> 00:25:47,51 and resting their needs and influencing the social polices. With regard to you 259 00:25:47,52 --> 00:25:54,34 know the situation both in the US and in the West Bank. The 260 00:25:54,48 --> 00:25:59,45 last thing that I wanted to say I just tried to put the challenges and. 261 00:26:00,81 --> 00:26:07,45 Whenever I prepare this presentation I put like five challenges that are you know 262 00:26:07,46 --> 00:26:13,53 confronting Palestinians working in the field of health etc but when I came here I 263 00:26:13,54 --> 00:26:19,85 just raised them and put one challenge is just to keep up the spirit for us and for 264 00:26:19,86 --> 00:26:25,40 you in order to continue to serve our people and to defend the rights of the people 265 00:26:25,58 --> 00:26:28,31 to live in dignity and in peace thank you. 266 00:26:39,83 --> 00:26:46,81 OK Good evening I really thank you for coming. I'm quite excited to be here 267 00:26:47,71 --> 00:26:54,06 the last time was that I was here like eight years ago was packed. 268 00:26:55,47 --> 00:27:02,44 Against my willing and. No one for which it was 269 00:27:03,38 --> 00:27:08,71 and I'm really happy to have the opportunity to come again to meet some familiar 270 00:27:08,72 --> 00:27:14,42 faces and maybe to know some. So thank you for coming 271 00:27:15,48 --> 00:27:16,75 so let me tell you 272 00:27:16,76 --> 00:27:22,44 a little bit about Physicians for Human Rights Israel and then another little bit 273 00:27:22,78 --> 00:27:29,72 about what's going on now and maybe you have some questions that we bring up 274 00:27:30,26 --> 00:27:36,96 issues because it's impossible to cover words ever going on in 275 00:27:36,97 --> 00:27:43,40 Israel and Palestine so talking about these issues for human rights Israel. 276 00:27:47,39 --> 00:27:54,21 We started. Where I stabbed twenty five years 277 00:27:54,22 --> 00:28:01,21 ago together I mean is there an outcome. To the first intifada 278 00:28:01,92 --> 00:28:08,13 that started in Gaza Strip. We have been in the beginning eleven people 279 00:28:10,12 --> 00:28:16,34 now we are around two thousand people more than half our 280 00:28:16,97 --> 00:28:22,45 medical professionals. The other half are members 281 00:28:23,41 --> 00:28:29,87 volunteers good people from all kinds I mean for me 282 00:28:29,88 --> 00:28:36,52 Israeli saying Israel please do not do the common mistake 283 00:28:36,82 --> 00:28:43,30 of thinking just about Jews. Israel has twenty 284 00:28:43,31 --> 00:28:44,18 percent or 285 00:28:44,19 --> 00:28:50,71 a little bit more of Palestinian citizens which have the same 286 00:28:51,04 --> 00:28:58,04 ID card same. Citizenship maybe not the same heights 287 00:28:58,45 --> 00:29:05,30 I mean the same rights but not the same. Rights in reality 288 00:29:06,24 --> 00:29:06,80 but this is 289 00:29:06,81 --> 00:29:14,12 a very long story which I will not tell you about unless you ask them 290 00:29:14,41 --> 00:29:20,96 and so saying that we are usually is IMO sharing to 291 00:29:20,96 --> 00:29:27,60 Jews and to Palestinians citizens of Israel we started eleven now we are. 292 00:29:28,67 --> 00:29:35,51 Two thousand who are working meeting each 293 00:29:35,55 --> 00:29:39,02 and every week from time to time more than once 294 00:29:39,03 --> 00:29:45,76 a week our Palestinian cause and not only call it by listing in population 295 00:29:46,08 --> 00:29:48,31 form the West Wing like 296 00:29:48,32 --> 00:29:55,18 a doctor I love how form the medical relief but not only the medical relief we are 297 00:29:56,42 --> 00:30:02,47 co-working go all in all kinds of relationship even with the Hamas 298 00:30:04,73 --> 00:30:11,31 and. All kinds of medical. And 299 00:30:11,32 --> 00:30:17,96 Geos Palestinian and you to make it short I 300 00:30:17,97 --> 00:30:24,26 tried to tell you what are the main things for Israel 301 00:30:27,12 --> 00:30:33,64 our main idea is they. Like human rights 302 00:30:35,21 --> 00:30:39,72 as. Money keepers something that I. 303 00:30:42,03 --> 00:30:48,38 Defend others this is the right i world. We are working 304 00:30:48,42 --> 00:30:55,25 against all mg's done by man to man or by people to people 305 00:30:56,29 --> 00:31:02,81 if our not our first mission is not struggling against 306 00:31:02,82 --> 00:31:07,18 a viable service or bacterias though we are doing it on 307 00:31:07,19 --> 00:31:12,55 a daily basis but the medical and the health 308 00:31:13,30 --> 00:31:19,38 services our install mentor for the human rights principle 309 00:31:20,82 --> 00:31:21,53 we are not 310 00:31:21,54 --> 00:31:28,91 a humanitarian goal in any way when 311 00:31:28,92 --> 00:31:35,46 we are going to the west and we are growing every Saturday every show but if you 312 00:31:35,47 --> 00:31:41,16 like doing more by Clooney in 313 00:31:41,17 --> 00:31:47,28 a place that our Palestinian friends or colleagues will we are discussing they will 314 00:31:47,32 --> 00:31:54,26 choose the and we check each and 315 00:31:54,27 --> 00:32:00,48 every person that we come to might be between two hundred to five hundred people 316 00:32:01,99 --> 00:32:08,22 and usually it's in between those numbers so we are serving 317 00:32:08,57 --> 00:32:14,100 médecins yes back we don't think that we can or we 318 00:32:15,01 --> 00:32:20,07 want to serve the the health problems on 319 00:32:20,08 --> 00:32:26,70 a national scale we cannot want to be are doing is demonstrating 320 00:32:26,79 --> 00:32:33,29 against the situation that brought us there that people cannot course 321 00:32:34,01 --> 00:32:40,53 from time to time families are divided one is on the one hand or one side 322 00:32:40,98 --> 00:32:47,61 of this wall or fence or whatever and the other are certainly on the other 323 00:32:47,62 --> 00:32:52,32 side which is not simple to course so this. 324 00:32:54,03 --> 00:32:58,68 Segmentation of the Palestinian society 325 00:33:01,16 --> 00:33:01,52 is 326 00:33:01,53 --> 00:33:08,44 a terrible thing to have it stops health Medici in education 327 00:33:08,70 --> 00:33:14,98 work social. Sub. Family family 328 00:33:16,01 --> 00:33:22,71 and we are there to demonstrate against it to protest against it by the way 329 00:33:23,31 --> 00:33:29,84 by the way is not the right way to say it but we are not just sitting there in 330 00:33:29,85 --> 00:33:36,03 a demonstration we are working in medicine in the same time building being 331 00:33:37,04 --> 00:33:43,94 kind of good we and and kind of building kind 332 00:33:43,95 --> 00:33:50,71 of bridges between the two people and this brings me to the other point 333 00:33:52,12 --> 00:33:58,94 is. That what we are doing 334 00:34:00,66 --> 00:34:05,36 well King against the segregation against oppression 335 00:34:07,10 --> 00:34:13,36 via coal working with Palestinians It shows or may 336 00:34:14,12 --> 00:34:16,75 show and I'll turn a thief 337 00:34:16,76 --> 00:34:23,61 a way to the violence to the hatred and we are doing it for twenty five years 338 00:34:24,27 --> 00:34:25,03 so it's 339 00:34:25,04 --> 00:34:33,89 a very good kind of record all over history and we 340 00:34:33,90 --> 00:34:40,81 continue to do it not only this settle this mobile clinic we created 341 00:34:40,82 --> 00:34:44,61 another kind of mobile clinic once 342 00:34:44,62 --> 00:34:51,34 a month for movie men to women I mean only women will come and only 343 00:34:51,35 --> 00:34:58,13 women will examine them treat them whatever which is really very important for me 344 00:34:58,14 --> 00:35:04,38 it's excellent then we are doing. Times the. 345 00:35:05,88 --> 00:35:12,30 Medical conferences in the West Bank what does that mean not only 346 00:35:12,31 --> 00:35:17,72 teaching and training and so on which is excellent the best doctors in Israel are 347 00:35:17,73 --> 00:35:24,20 doing that but this is the kind of protest against this blockage that 348 00:35:25,15 --> 00:35:31,52 medical students doctors all over the place cannot get to medical 349 00:35:31,53 --> 00:35:37,43 conferences to get better training to see what's going on in the 350 00:35:38,57 --> 00:35:45,07 in the Western I must say Well in medicine so if they cannot go out 351 00:35:45,49 --> 00:35:52,37 we are coming in and doing those days of training either 352 00:35:52,38 --> 00:35:59,20 there are those theoretical conferences or practical surgery 353 00:35:59,21 --> 00:36:01,96 for one two or three days in 354 00:36:01,97 --> 00:36:08,95 a certain hospital certain Palestinian hospital that we choose to give them and of 355 00:36:08,96 --> 00:36:15,68 course in those days Palestinian. Patients will gain 356 00:36:15,76 --> 00:36:22,48 because they will be operated on in the best way but this is Be A 357 00:36:22,92 --> 00:36:25,50 is the training and maybe 358 00:36:25,51 --> 00:36:32,36 a one if you like is what they said before you cannot go out so 359 00:36:32,37 --> 00:36:38,01 we go in trying to show there is not 360 00:36:38,02 --> 00:36:42,83 a whole way and I believe there is another way I would like to say 361 00:36:42,84 --> 00:36:49,16 a few words about the Palestinian prisoners I guess that 362 00:36:49,21 --> 00:36:55,59 everyone here knows about. The hunger strike 363 00:36:56,09 --> 00:37:02,10 that took place few months ago and. For some reason of 364 00:37:02,80 --> 00:37:08,74 three that I know up to one day go. Are still 365 00:37:09,41 --> 00:37:15,77 striking hunger striking and one of them is over one 366 00:37:15,97 --> 00:37:22,72 hundred days with an believable I mean he drinks water and get some 367 00:37:22,81 --> 00:37:29,18 I'm in mine of olives and and vitamins but he is really absolutely 368 00:37:29,46 --> 00:37:35,77 not eating I think one hundred and fifteen of 369 00:37:35,78 --> 00:37:41,69 sixteen days today he lost his sight and most of I mean 370 00:37:43,02 --> 00:37:49,44 I can go into numbers and medical facts I do not wish to do it 371 00:37:50,79 --> 00:37:55,06 but what does that mean I really would like to 372 00:37:57,79 --> 00:37:58,01 to 373 00:37:58,02 --> 00:38:05,35 a ways they're worthless about these prisoners but those prisoners the hunger strikers 374 00:38:06,09 --> 00:38:12,79 are fighting for all the poison else the Prez the political person else which in 375 00:38:12,80 --> 00:38:18,81 years while they are called the security personnel say no they are political poison 376 00:38:19,93 --> 00:38:22,71 and good amount good I mean 377 00:38:23,00 --> 00:38:29,33 a big amount of them. In. The ten. 378 00:38:30,71 --> 00:38:36,90 Administrative detention which means to the non lawyers here in the 379 00:38:37,54 --> 00:38:44,25 audience which I guess everyone. Is being imprisoned with 380 00:38:44,29 --> 00:38:49,52 out charge. Out trial for 381 00:38:50,87 --> 00:38:57,62 six month that can be really new good for ever and the 382 00:38:57,91 --> 00:39:02,28 lawyer is the is one cannot see the charges 383 00:39:04,68 --> 00:39:11,12 it's secretive so the person cannot know what is charge 384 00:39:12,12 --> 00:39:19,12 what is Who high is. That person cannot know when he will 385 00:39:19,13 --> 00:39:26,02 be released because if some someone is convicted he or she knows it's 386 00:39:26,03 --> 00:39:32,100 one year it's ten years it's so on but this person can never know it might be 387 00:39:33,01 --> 00:39:39,52 two more but it might be. In the future and this is really this 388 00:39:39,53 --> 00:39:46,07 storing. It makes. People in great and it was I. 389 00:39:47,31 --> 00:39:53,39 Doubt in secure the sense of future is destroyed 390 00:39:54,52 --> 00:40:01,36 so I will tell you only on one prison there because of the time and I 391 00:40:01,37 --> 00:40:07,96 guess that these story of her there are none is representing the whole thing 392 00:40:08,29 --> 00:40:12,31 he started his. Hunger strike. 393 00:40:16,16 --> 00:40:22,79 Not with any. Reason knows it's an open open 394 00:40:22,80 --> 00:40:29,66 and. Hunger strike he knew he could die because I mean there 395 00:40:29,67 --> 00:40:31,63 is an end to how much 396 00:40:31,64 --> 00:40:37,86 a person even drinking and maybe having all kinds of mean odds can stay with out 397 00:40:37,87 --> 00:40:44,74 eating but he said I am so much 398 00:40:45,18 --> 00:40:51,86 against this administrative that their mission of myself and of us 399 00:40:52,85 --> 00:40:59,26 I am so much against the quarter ways of being interval greater 400 00:41:00,76 --> 00:41:06,30 He even didn't say tortured and not nice and and really. 401 00:41:08,49 --> 00:41:11,82 I don't want to say poor like overly a kind man 402 00:41:11,89 --> 00:41:18,90 a cunt but kind of person and. He 403 00:41:18,91 --> 00:41:24,46 said We starve to death unless you will over listening 404 00:41:26,85 --> 00:41:33,75 and many outcomes where two of these things are done 405 00:41:33,79 --> 00:41:37,26 prisoners started hunger strike and in 406 00:41:37,27 --> 00:41:43,79 a certain point there were according to whom it doesn't matter one thousand 407 00:41:43,80 --> 00:41:45,46 six hundred and 408 00:41:45,50 --> 00:41:50,73 a quarter according to the Israelis according to the Palestinians over two thousand 409 00:41:51,06 --> 00:41:57,64 prisoners. Were under hunger 410 00:41:57,65 --> 00:41:58,84 strike for 411 00:41:58,85 --> 00:42:06,38 a month one month less one day that was huge and 412 00:42:07,86 --> 00:42:14,49 a lot of comes first the fall it was known in years I and 413 00:42:14,50 --> 00:42:21,16 most of my people these rallies the Jewish Islam these are looking 414 00:42:21,72 --> 00:42:28,63 tenderly to the other side when we are talking about human rights or any 415 00:42:28,64 --> 00:42:35,21 are the height of Palestinians they don't want to know and this is very strong when 416 00:42:35,22 --> 00:42:40,91 a person doesn't want to know something there is no way to let him or her know 417 00:42:42,77 --> 00:42:49,37 it's so he always discretion 418 00:42:49,77 --> 00:42:54,41 in and bolted into the public and then 419 00:42:56,62 --> 00:43:02,74 a strange thing to happen human life are not. 420 00:43:06,96 --> 00:43:13,55 So hims jetlag and I miss my Where. Anyone here and those people 421 00:43:15,44 --> 00:43:21,98 bizarrely I mean it's cheap Thank you you see. It's the 422 00:43:21,98 --> 00:43:28,72 same as far as I can judge because I'm not an expert on the American 423 00:43:28,76 --> 00:43:33,72 people but here life are also very cheap. 424 00:43:35,99 --> 00:43:42,31 Not every life maybe but most life. I'm not talking about the Lynch period which 425 00:43:42,32 --> 00:43:49,17 was not so far away historically but commonly and this is 426 00:43:49,18 --> 00:43:55,76 why you and us Israelis are building so very 427 00:43:55,77 --> 00:44:02,33 many huge prisons and all kinds of solitary confinement and 428 00:44:03,61 --> 00:44:10,39 awful things that men are doing to men or people doing to people so in 429 00:44:10,40 --> 00:44:17,38 spite of everything they said just now this prison now this hunger 430 00:44:17,39 --> 00:44:23,86 strike. Harder had not. Manage 431 00:44:24,23 --> 00:44:30,49 in a very paradoxical way to there to make 432 00:44:30,50 --> 00:44:31,81 a secure to create 433 00:44:31,82 --> 00:44:38,33 a situation that everyone in the government and in high 434 00:44:38,34 --> 00:44:45,22 society of Israel was anxious to keep him alive God forbidden 435 00:44:45,23 --> 00:44:51,07 that he would die in his hunger strike so that was 436 00:44:51,11 --> 00:44:57,47 a really interesting we didn't there we I mean Physicians for Human Rights we 437 00:44:57,48 --> 00:45:03,05 didn't there are two white it and you well ought to say that aloud then because we 438 00:45:03,06 --> 00:45:09,93 were afraid that it will harm the other hunger strike hunger strikers but to 439 00:45:09,94 --> 00:45:15,40 my understanding this is very droll and he was released not really 440 00:45:15,41 --> 00:45:22,00 a court the or no all kinds of agreements out of 441 00:45:22,05 --> 00:45:24,18 court which is 442 00:45:24,19 --> 00:45:31,14 a shame because the court the military called the civil court their High Court 443 00:45:31,63 --> 00:45:36,86 found all kinds of excuses not to deal with the problem 444 00:45:39,05 --> 00:45:45,95 of administrative the tension of the. Unbelievably bad ways 445 00:45:46,00 --> 00:45:52,95 of until Gratian so. Then me when I think of 446 00:45:53,70 --> 00:46:00,62 all the things you're with them. So of course there is no 447 00:46:00,63 --> 00:46:06,93 end to what I'm saying. Thank you very very much. To 448 00:46:06,94 --> 00:46:12,45 a. 449 00:46:14,11 --> 00:46:19,14 The last time got more tone and jump from Post thank you meant I was surprised to 450 00:46:19,15 --> 00:46:25,31 learn that. The kids are not just between 451 00:46:26,03 --> 00:46:31,60 for example the West Bank and moving into Israel but also within the West Bank can 452 00:46:31,61 --> 00:46:38,06 you describe the situation what it's like now for people Palestinians as opposed to 453 00:46:38,11 --> 00:46:44,84 Jewish settlers to try to move within the West Bank itself this situation is more 454 00:46:44,85 --> 00:46:47,81 or less as it was in a way it's 455 00:46:47,82 --> 00:46:54,15 a bit bit better but in another way it's where I was because the wall that you 456 00:46:54,16 --> 00:47:00,50 could see in the doctor. Power power point 457 00:47:00,65 --> 00:47:05,74 slides. Is eating really 458 00:47:07,09 --> 00:47:12,50 actually eating Palestinian land and 459 00:47:13,44 --> 00:47:19,99 Palestinian are good culture because farmers cannot 460 00:47:20,03 --> 00:47:26,93 go freely to develop own land to cultivate. Their 461 00:47:26,94 --> 00:47:33,72 trees or any kind of agriculture they are used to do 462 00:47:33,73 --> 00:47:40,44 for ages so that was not is 463 00:47:40,45 --> 00:47:47,44 something they did not exist eight years ago now it is 464 00:47:47,45 --> 00:47:54,18 the whole. And those children have to wait there until the 465 00:47:54,19 --> 00:48:00,70 soldier will open the gate going to school coming back to school 466 00:48:01,05 --> 00:48:07,58 and if the soldier. Lost his watch or something they can wait 467 00:48:09,31 --> 00:48:16,24 if we are talking about health or even more now home made this 468 00:48:16,25 --> 00:48:22,98 in people can in emergency cases cannot cause 469 00:48:23,03 --> 00:48:29,87 those huge gates on the other hand so this 470 00:48:29,88 --> 00:48:30,07 is 471 00:48:30,08 --> 00:48:37,81 a really terrible on the I don't hand they are much not much but less. Checkpoints 472 00:48:38,17 --> 00:48:44,83 with in the West Bank and there are no checkpoints 473 00:48:45,35 --> 00:48:48,43 in the Gaza Strip Gaza Strip is 474 00:48:48,44 --> 00:48:55,30 a poison saw on the sealed all over its borders but 475 00:48:55,71 --> 00:49:02,62 inside the Gaza Strip there are no checkpoints anymore. It's 476 00:49:02,63 --> 00:49:09,27 condensed and they can almost Thank you both very much for coming I 477 00:49:09,69 --> 00:49:14,42 actually live six months in the West Bank and I worked with of course 478 00:49:14,43 --> 00:49:20,87 a lot of Palestinian and Israeli activists My question is about. I guess sort of 479 00:49:20,91 --> 00:49:26,58 Israeli society and. You know we knew that there were kind of 480 00:49:26,59 --> 00:49:32,69 a sort of an Occupy movement there several months ago with you know conditions for 481 00:49:32,98 --> 00:49:37,66 Jewish Israelis not being very good we know that you know I've heard about you know 482 00:49:37,67 --> 00:49:43,69 kind of a almost program that's going on against Palestinians and 483 00:49:43,70 --> 00:49:50,46 a recent poll that. Was the Jewish Israelis there their rate of racism 484 00:49:50,47 --> 00:49:56,81 against Palestinians is very high and I'm just wondering if. You could comment 485 00:49:56,82 --> 00:50:01,69 about talk about Jewish Israeli society and also what's going on for Palestinians 486 00:50:01,70 --> 00:50:08,17 inside Israel and you know how. I mean what we've heard about is more repression 487 00:50:08,18 --> 00:50:13,78 people that are trying to be seen and being illegal and so sort of how is activism 488 00:50:13,79 --> 00:50:19,01 happening and what do you see kind of as trends within the society thinks 489 00:50:20,65 --> 00:50:27,63 these ready society. Let me say Julie she's annoyed the society 490 00:50:29,21 --> 00:50:35,64 is on one hand to hand these two hands. On the one hand 491 00:50:36,07 --> 00:50:42,64 becoming. Military is to most nationalistic 492 00:50:43,23 --> 00:50:48,96 mall of Allegiance and the Nation of these three to be 493 00:50:50,48 --> 00:50:56,76 so this is becoming more and more I mean maybe not so very many 494 00:50:57,28 --> 00:51:04,04 more people on the side but disfigured becoming. More water the 495 00:51:04,05 --> 00:51:10,70 more profound on the other hand. Many of the younger 496 00:51:10,71 --> 00:51:16,66 generation the very young generation they're on twenty up to thirty eight maybe 497 00:51:16,67 --> 00:51:23,33 a little bit more some of them are really thinking 498 00:51:23,51 --> 00:51:28,39 young people they are not listening to the Israeli T.V. 499 00:51:28,54 --> 00:51:35,26 Or reading most of the if any of the newspapers and so on they're 500 00:51:35,44 --> 00:51:42,06 thinking not quoting and you can find them in the anarchistic against the 501 00:51:42,07 --> 00:51:46,08 wall you can find them in all kinds of. 502 00:51:48,91 --> 00:51:55,25 Groups that at home working with Palestinians young people like that are both like 503 00:51:55,33 --> 00:52:01,11 the Thai and so on they are very very active 504 00:52:01,84 --> 00:52:08,31 especially the youngsters that are going every Friday and every 505 00:52:08,32 --> 00:52:13,03 Friday is every fighting to those villages. 506 00:52:15,56 --> 00:52:21,66 In bulldoze and some more not so very many Every 507 00:52:21,100 --> 00:52:26,29 Friday there are demonstrating that they are in a kind of 508 00:52:26,30 --> 00:52:32,66 a nonviolent the most ration but they are getting short it either by 509 00:52:32,98 --> 00:52:38,98 always by. Guys. Still goes 510 00:52:41,58 --> 00:52:48,14 different teargas one friend of mine was killed I mean killed 511 00:52:49,21 --> 00:52:49,70 by 512 00:52:49,77 --> 00:52:56,73 a kind kind of still feel that was shot. Against him in his chest for 513 00:52:56,74 --> 00:53:00,43 not some short distance and he died 514 00:53:01,37 --> 00:53:08,16 a young wonderful man and. Live in munition from time to time and so on. 515 00:53:10,56 --> 00:53:17,55 But they're not doing it for us not so very five go we did 516 00:53:17,56 --> 00:53:24,29 that kind of an event so you know they have they feel like over six years of the 517 00:53:24,30 --> 00:53:31,07 South and I. Won't know. The most the nation's 518 00:53:33,16 --> 00:53:39,97 but. If I have to be you know to to answer your 519 00:53:39,98 --> 00:53:46,04 question the situation is where the need to was yes I'm familiar generally with the 520 00:53:46,05 --> 00:53:51,57 state of higher education in the occupied territories of the universities that are 521 00:53:51,72 --> 00:53:58,32 sometimes closed arbitrarily and. The students have trouble getting to and from 522 00:53:58,33 --> 00:54:00,67 class but the Specifically if you could talk 523 00:54:00,68 --> 00:54:04,96 a little bit about education in the health sciences are there medical schools in 524 00:54:04,97 --> 00:54:10,06 the West Bank and Gaza other other other medical professions are people able to 525 00:54:10,52 --> 00:54:16,41 become certified and educated so that they can serve their people and I thank you 526 00:54:16,42 --> 00:54:22,31 very much for the call. Yes I think we have two medical schools in the West Bank 527 00:54:22,58 --> 00:54:29,55 One is located nearby Jerusalem it's called Jerusalem University in look 528 00:54:29,56 --> 00:54:34,30 at it it's all about he says if anybody knows what is up with these. And there we 529 00:54:34,31 --> 00:54:35,15 have also 530 00:54:35,19 --> 00:54:40,79 a medical school inside of as by the way but the number of students in the three 531 00:54:40,80 --> 00:54:47,36 medical schools are very limited. And their capacities may be of the three medical 532 00:54:47,37 --> 00:54:54,13 schools are very also. Very limited as well we have an 533 00:54:54,14 --> 00:55:00,69 addition to that we have one universes and that also educate staff nurses 534 00:55:01,52 --> 00:55:07,08 and we have many schools in the field of practical Lester's and at the same times 535 00:55:07,09 --> 00:55:12,93 our universe does also teach you know lab technicians political stuff and generally 536 00:55:13,48 --> 00:55:20,40 it has maybe not to do with the amount of professionals that are in the West Bank 537 00:55:20,41 --> 00:55:26,05 and because there are more than we need to actually and many of them are working 538 00:55:26,06 --> 00:55:32,98 enjoy them maybe the best medical services that are provided in the region is 539 00:55:32,99 --> 00:55:37,38 considered Jordan but if you go to them and see who are the professionals there who 540 00:55:37,39 --> 00:55:43,03 are providing this highly sophisticated when they can you know service you find 541 00:55:43,04 --> 00:55:49,54 them Palestinians the idea that we don't have the choice we don't have 542 00:55:50,34 --> 00:55:55,32 you know the decision we are. Locked in 543 00:55:55,33 --> 00:56:00,42 a way and we don't have the ability to build our own infrastructure and to build 544 00:56:00,43 --> 00:56:05,25 our own future this is the problem the problem in a sense is 545 00:56:05,29 --> 00:56:11,48 a political one is denying Palestinians for their political and civil rights this 546 00:56:11,49 --> 00:56:17,90 is the basis of the problem I'd like to ask questions like. It ties 547 00:56:18,28 --> 00:56:24,76 what's happening in Palestine Israel with the United States and specifically Dr 548 00:56:24,88 --> 00:56:31,59 Martin you referred to prisoners and spoke about life being cheap and I 549 00:56:31,60 --> 00:56:35,67 thought I heard you say maybe that that's the case here in the United States as 550 00:56:35,68 --> 00:56:38,51 well. Certainly I could give you 551 00:56:38,52 --> 00:56:43,04 a lot of I could support that statement but I wasn't sure if that's exactly what 552 00:56:43,05 --> 00:56:46,75 you were saying but if you could talk about you know compare the U.S. 553 00:56:46,75 --> 00:56:52,85 . Access to health care systems in Israel Palestine to access in the United States 554 00:56:52,86 --> 00:56:59,08 if you can and then also Dr. You talk about access and obstruction to health care 555 00:56:59,09 --> 00:57:06,08 resources both of you could comment on that access and maybe if do you see it 556 00:57:06,09 --> 00:57:12,20 mirrored here in the United States and. What they respond to him that maybe they 557 00:57:12,21 --> 00:57:19,07 are learning too much from each other. Not too much from each other too much 558 00:57:19,44 --> 00:57:25,71 fun demand I can kind of the regime and understanding them behaving 559 00:57:26,33 --> 00:57:32,11 and he's really the kind of little America to my guide civil 560 00:57:33,05 --> 00:57:39,10 because I'm an only lady as you can see and I was there before many called was 561 00:57:39,11 --> 00:57:45,98 there I mean in Palestine you find. It with the fine. And so 562 00:57:45,99 --> 00:57:52,88 much for the better you know Nancy yes. I think I agree with you 563 00:57:52,89 --> 00:57:59,87 there are. So. I think I. Just agree with you that 564 00:57:59,88 --> 00:58:04,56 there are many commonalities when it comes you know the situation as well Palestine 565 00:58:04,60 --> 00:58:11,37 and what's happening in the United States with regard to. Maybe the 566 00:58:11,38 --> 00:58:15,60 question of access because whenever we talk about access in our country we're 567 00:58:15,61 --> 00:58:20,79 talking about factors that are affecting access merely These are political factors 568 00:58:20,80 --> 00:58:26,00 but at the same time we're talking about social factors that also affecting access 569 00:58:26,04 --> 00:58:32,26 access to health care in terms of social income inequalities and not because of the 570 00:58:32,27 --> 00:58:35,72 occupation but also because of the injustices inside this was 571 00:58:35,73 --> 00:58:41,30 a it is in our case as well but in the United States when we talk about access it's 572 00:58:41,31 --> 00:58:47,32 very important also to mention that in social inequalities in the United States are 573 00:58:47,33 --> 00:58:54,14 very much visible and the quality care. Is not you know it's 574 00:58:54,15 --> 00:59:00,97 not easy to get by all Americans and this was this spirit in and your society 575 00:59:00,98 --> 00:59:01,33 for 576 00:59:01,34 --> 00:59:06,56 a long time and it will continue to be so although we know that there have been some 577 00:59:06,57 --> 00:59:11,42 changes in the distance of this respect but the commonality here the issue of 578 00:59:11,46 --> 00:59:18,28 access yes both in our case and in your case and it has to do with the you know 579 00:59:19,09 --> 00:59:24,90 one phenomena which is the social phenomena to access health care and. 580 00:59:27,44 --> 00:59:33,92 Maybe one thing more. I think that you heard me quite could. 581 00:59:34,97 --> 00:59:41,67 And. Maybe it's really. Hard to say 582 00:59:41,82 --> 00:59:46,69 it and hard to hear it but there is 583 00:59:46,73 --> 00:59:53,40 a culture of death here and in Israel and. 584 00:59:56,19 --> 01:00:02,55 And in the same time the gap between the haves and the have 585 01:00:02,56 --> 01:00:08,69 nots are first place in the world 586 01:00:09,29 --> 01:00:13,16 use Riley and the states so it's not 587 01:00:13,20 --> 01:00:20,07 a chance that solving many. Reasons are made in 588 01:00:20,28 --> 01:00:27,08 your country and in my country instead of 589 01:00:27,12 --> 01:00:32,93 building schools instead of building it's kind of. 590 01:00:34,41 --> 01:00:41,33 Hospitals but not only hospitals it's the system health system because hospitals 591 01:00:41,34 --> 01:00:46,90 that may be enough but who can get there and who cannot get there 592 01:00:48,57 --> 01:00:55,50 so all those things to allow Boyd about it. It's 593 01:00:55,54 --> 01:01:01,43 difficult in his short time but I really see that they are connected to each other 594 01:01:01,43 --> 01:01:06,99 . Now who. 595 01:01:08,74 --> 01:01:14,60 Would have. The were. 596 01:01:27,25 --> 01:01:31,95 We have. A who were. 597 01:01:34,30 --> 01:01:34,78 Needed. 598 01:02:03,68 --> 01:02:07,50 Good morning Drew Sloan Baron Davis here behind the mike at the old abuse studio 599 01:02:07,51 --> 01:02:11,73 number two in the east of the city in the Saddam Hussein traffic the western 600 01:02:11,74 --> 01:02:15,79 entrance of the city jumping down from the soccer of Dalton's and things are moving 601 01:02:15,80 --> 01:02:20,30 too freely in the vicinity of the Damascus Gate and just before you go I'll just 602 01:02:20,31 --> 01:02:23,74 let you know whether Thankfully be relatively comfortable today with 603 01:02:23,75 --> 01:02:27,99 a high of just six degrees so as I said chill out and enjoy your day. 604 01:04:01,63 --> 01:04:07,14 Nineteen twenty three until one thousand nine hundred forty eight. And the whole of 605 01:04:07,15 --> 01:04:12,72 Palestine fell under the British Mandate. In one thousand nine hundred seventeen 606 01:04:13,17 --> 01:04:17,83 the British government had issued the Balfour declaration promising the Jewish 607 01:04:17,84 --> 01:04:18,40 people 608 01:04:18,59 --> 01:04:25,57 a national home in Palestine increasing waves of Jewish immigrants from all 609 01:04:25,58 --> 01:04:32,32 over the world especially Europe came to Palestine tensions 610 01:04:32,35 --> 01:04:37,97 started rising between the immigrants and native Palestinians with several 611 01:04:37,98 --> 01:04:43,57 outbreaks of violence. The British had created 612 01:04:43,58 --> 01:04:49,70 a mess that was too big for even them to handle so they handed over the issue of 613 01:04:49,71 --> 01:04:56,46 Palestine to the United Nations on November twenty ninth one thousand nine hundred 614 01:04:56,47 --> 01:05:02,99 forty seven the United Nations General Assembly voted to partition Palestine into 615 01:05:02,100 --> 01:05:08,64 Tuesday Jewish and Arab public your name Yeah 616 01:05:09,95 --> 01:05:10,81 you know I think I'm 617 01:05:12,25 --> 01:05:18,98 a fan. You know it's very yeah. Well prepared or 618 01:05:18,99 --> 01:05:25,62 maybe we're probably. War but not right we're. Not. Really 619 01:05:25,63 --> 01:05:32,11 a group. Immediately there was 620 01:05:32,12 --> 01:05:37,79 celebrations within the Jewish community in Palestine the Jewish people's dream of 621 01:05:37,80 --> 01:05:40,22 a homeland was about to become 622 01:05:40,26 --> 01:05:47,80 a reality. On 623 01:05:47,81 --> 01:05:54,36 the Arab side there was no dancing the Palestinians would just about to lose more 624 01:05:54,37 --> 01:06:01,21 than half of that country. Demonstrations and riots erupted all over the country 625 01:06:01,83 --> 01:06:04,07 shock despair and 626 01:06:04,08 --> 01:06:17,41 a sense of betrayal with the dominating mood. Fifty 627 01:06:17,42 --> 01:06:22,93 six percent of the land was given to the Jewish state and the remaining forty four 628 01:06:22,94 --> 01:06:28,96 percent allocated to the Palestinians although at the time Jewish people in 629 01:06:28,97 --> 01:06:35,07 Palestine accounted for thirty three percent of the population and armed only six 630 01:06:35,08 --> 01:06:41,85 percent of the land Jerusalem and Bethlehem were designated as international 631 01:06:41,86 --> 01:06:45,53 signs to be administered by the United Nations 632 01:06:49,84 --> 01:06:54,36 on the fourteenth of May one thousand nine hundred forty eight the Jewish state was 633 01:06:54,37 --> 01:07:00,74 declared soon after war broke out between Israel and its neighboring Arab 634 01:07:00,75 --> 01:07:01,51 countries. 635 01:07:09,78 --> 01:07:16,08 The Arabs lost the war and Israel had now captured seventy eight percent of 636 01:07:16,08 --> 01:07:22,39 historical Palestine including West Jerusalem. East Jerusalem 637 01:07:22,73 --> 01:07:29,67 including the old city remained under the jurisdiction of Jordan. The war 638 01:07:29,82 --> 01:07:30,82 also created 639 01:07:30,86 --> 01:07:37,19 a refugee problem two thousand Jews had to leave their homes in the Old City 640 01:07:38,19 --> 01:07:44,40 nineteen years later they would all return. For the Palestinian 641 01:07:44,41 --> 01:07:50,66 refugees the story was different. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were 642 01:07:50,70 --> 01:07:56,97 uprooted and became scattered across the region. Some never left 643 01:07:56,98 --> 01:08:03,91 Palestine but instead became refugees in their own country the remnants 644 01:08:03,92 --> 01:08:09,50 of many of their villages and homes still stand today bearing witness to that 645 01:08:09,51 --> 01:08:16,05 tragedy. A long and painful chapter in the 646 01:08:16,06 --> 01:08:22,26 history of the Jewish people was just about to be closed and the long and painful 647 01:08:22,27 --> 01:08:26,92 chapter in the history of the Palestinian people was just about. 648 01:08:39,29 --> 01:08:43,46 In March one thousand nine hundred forty nine Jordan and Israel signed the 649 01:08:43,47 --> 01:08:46,72 armistice lines agreement to form what is now 650 01:08:46,73 --> 01:08:52,61 a days referred to as the green line it gets its name from the green pencil that 651 01:08:52,62 --> 01:08:58,69 was used by the Israeli general mushy Dyan the Israeli side of the green line 652 01:08:58,88 --> 01:09:03,33 includes the captured seventy eight percent of historical Palestine 653 01:09:07,01 --> 01:09:13,73 Jerusalem now stood divided between east and west sniper's positions were mounted 654 01:09:13,77 --> 01:09:19,76 along the dividing line Jews were not allowed to visit the Western Wall and 655 01:09:19,77 --> 01:09:24,73 Palestinian refugees were not allowed to return to their homes in West Jerusalem 656 01:09:25,43 --> 01:09:31,11 according to the census I myself conducted in nineteen sixty seven there were ten 657 01:09:31,12 --> 01:09:37,52 thousand Palestinians in is your seven that were 658 01:09:37,53 --> 01:09:41,47 born in west Georgia look not only general 659 01:09:41,48 --> 01:09:48,43 a few people actually were born so you say about one in five it 660 01:09:48,44 --> 01:09:51,21 is yours alone was 661 01:09:51,40 --> 01:09:57,76 a displaced person for the same city think about the emotional burden of that 662 01:09:58,74 --> 01:10:03,86 this is my house I'm good with. That. 663 01:10:05,40 --> 01:10:11,78 Circulating among your family it was on the up stairs. Because 664 01:10:12,52 --> 01:10:19,48 my father. Leaving the house my father left I think the very last day the 665 01:10:19,49 --> 01:10:22,89 very very last day and he carried with him 666 01:10:23,47 --> 01:10:30,27 a tablecloth. And I remember when my mother was packing and she was 667 01:10:30,28 --> 01:10:36,27 adding it was she was adding some winter clothes for the kids and my father was 668 01:10:36,28 --> 01:10:43,17 shouting Don't take too much luggage you're to be back in two weeks when 669 01:10:43,62 --> 01:10:47,81 we're in two thousand and seven. Zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero 670 01:10:47,86 --> 01:10:54,36 zero zero to this shift gears here is the original door and if you go up. You can 671 01:10:54,77 --> 01:10:57,06 go and. Take 672 01:10:57,07 --> 01:11:03,96 a picture of the staircase you can go I don't mind. We have two 673 01:11:03,97 --> 01:11:10,76 entrances to the house. This gate is still getting the gate they added 674 01:11:10,77 --> 01:11:15,11 nothing in fact the trees the trees are the same. 675 01:11:19,33 --> 01:11:25,64 Tree is the same. So I continued tree is the same I do 676 01:11:26,20 --> 01:11:27,72 not go to the but God. 677 01:11:40,19 --> 01:11:44,21 You pick up the music this was not the music played when we where. 678 01:11:50,92 --> 01:11:51,88 I will you take 679 01:11:51,89 --> 01:11:57,44 a picture of these people out of the new tenants and the real people of this if you 680 01:11:57,44 --> 01:12:01,98 . Like you are going to be. 681 01:12:11,12 --> 01:12:14,77 He just look at us and say What are they doing here 682 01:12:19,62 --> 01:12:26,37 we live in fantasy they live in denial and one day we should both 683 01:12:26,38 --> 01:12:33,23 come to reality. And the solution is in fairness fair is fair 684 01:12:33,24 --> 01:12:39,67 for both sides. I deserve to go back and live in our house 685 01:12:44,31 --> 01:12:50,62 . Finished. 686 01:12:52,68 --> 01:12:52,95 And that's. 687 01:13:18,43 --> 01:13:18,66 What. 688 01:13:35,15 --> 01:13:36,97 Nine hundred sixty seven was 689 01:13:36,98 --> 01:13:43,13 a fateful turning point for Jerusalem the cradle of holiness added another chapter 690 01:13:43,33 --> 01:13:49,88 to its long and bloody history after six days of intense fighting 691 01:13:50,40 --> 01:13:56,13 the whole of Palestine including all of Jerusalem fell into the hands of Israel 692 01:14:00,11 --> 01:14:04,94 hundreds of thousands of Palestinians joined the refugees of one thousand nine 693 01:14:04,96 --> 01:14:07,72 hundred forty eight in surrounding countries. 694 01:14:11,73 --> 01:14:18,57 Lembit with was completely broken only by the WHO was busing. His bus where 695 01:14:18,76 --> 01:14:24,62 they have buses at the mosque. Calling for people for free I. For. 696 01:14:26,01 --> 01:14:32,97 My father said. I've heard I've learned that one but I would not be the 697 01:14:33,14 --> 01:14:38,44 mystic I would not leave the roots of them more of my family would be to do with it 698 01:14:38,45 --> 01:14:45,15 in the rules of him what is the cost loss of the. US of A 699 01:14:45,17 --> 01:14:45,93 war for 700 01:14:46,10 --> 01:14:52,61 a little. Corrupt White House and suck up of the buffalo. 701 01:14:53,98 --> 01:15:00,61 With the rector looking like the defeat of one nine hundred sixty seven 702 01:15:00,67 --> 01:15:06,94 shocked the Arab world the loss of Jerusalem and the images of the destruction of 703 01:15:06,95 --> 01:15:13,89 the Arab armies at the hands of Israel with too much to handle Meanwhile 704 01:15:14,25 --> 01:15:19,83 Israel became intoxicated by its victory and its new found position of power in the 705 01:15:19,84 --> 01:15:26,79 region the days weeks and months that followed started to reveal more and 706 01:15:26,80 --> 01:15:33,19 more of Israel's intentions and plans for Jerusalem Israel wanted to 707 01:15:33,20 --> 01:15:38,25 ensure that its conquest of Jerusalem would be the final one 708 01:15:40,78 --> 01:15:45,78 the Palestinian mother to be quarter in the Old City was the first to meet the new 709 01:15:45,79 --> 01:15:51,99 occupier the decision was made to destroy it and to expel its six hundred 710 01:15:52,00 --> 01:15:58,99 inhabitants to make way for the western wall Plaza when they started they 711 01:15:59,00 --> 01:15:59,83 want to bring them over 712 01:15:59,84 --> 01:16:05,55 a quarter in the old city I saw that they call it their way out of Jerusalem 713 01:16:06,06 --> 01:16:12,61 assisters their own business they are being and others rushing to that quarter 714 01:16:13,38 --> 01:16:19,05 and making sure that the order would be implemented now without any delay I said 715 01:16:19,06 --> 01:16:25,90 when I think about it today there were many excuses that I can bring 716 01:16:25,90 --> 01:16:31,67 out you see they have the price to be paid for the fact that children of the Lot of 717 01:16:31,68 --> 01:16:37,82 all forced or. Days after the occupation of the city the boundaries of East 718 01:16:37,83 --> 01:16:44,46 Jerusalem were expanded from six to seventy square kilometers stripping 719 01:16:44,47 --> 01:16:50,89 twenty eight surrounding Palestinian villages of their agricultural lands populous 720 01:16:50,90 --> 01:16:57,50 Palestinian neighborhoods such as abilities as City Year has now under were pushed 721 01:16:57,54 --> 01:17:04,20 outside the new boundary and forty percent of the expanded land was designated as 722 01:17:04,21 --> 01:17:10,64 green areas off limits for Palestinian Housing and Development squeezing the 723 01:17:10,65 --> 01:17:17,50 Palestinians in Jerusalem into only thirteen percent of their land soon 724 01:17:17,51 --> 01:17:22,45 after the new boundaries of the city were the next to the state of Israel and 725 01:17:22,46 --> 01:17:28,40 Jerusalem was declared the eternal capital of the Jewish state and the where was 726 01:17:28,41 --> 01:17:34,89 she to know I'm sure support. Israel are 727 01:17:34,89 --> 01:17:41,55 a. Shame. To let the 728 01:17:41,56 --> 01:17:47,15 bears out of. Maximum land and many more people they wanted 729 01:17:47,16 --> 01:17:49,13 a capital that would have 730 01:17:49,17 --> 01:17:54,45 a Jewish majority but that would also be fairly large in size so you see the 731 01:17:54,46 --> 01:17:59,92 phenomenon again and again along the borders of the municipality where Arab 732 01:17:59,93 --> 01:18:06,11 villages are just outside the city limits but their lands are inside following the 733 01:18:06,12 --> 01:18:08,51 annexation Israel conducted 734 01:18:08,55 --> 01:18:15,01 a census of the city only Palestinians who were present at the time were issued an 735 01:18:15,02 --> 01:18:21,78 ID card making them residents of the city. Israeli citizenship was offered to 736 01:18:21,79 --> 01:18:27,90 these Palestinians in East Jerusalem if they met certain conditions including 737 01:18:27,91 --> 01:18:33,25 swearing allegiance to the state of Israel proving they were not citizens of any 738 01:18:33,26 --> 01:18:40,21 other country and demonstrating some knowledge of Hebrew most Palestinians were not 739 01:18:40,25 --> 01:18:46,33 interested they consider us as if we as tourists the two hundred fifty thousand 740 01:18:46,35 --> 01:18:52,45 that is the unions it isn't as if they are the wrists deemed to Israel and settled 741 01:18:52,47 --> 01:18:57,86 there. Is that it is out of the raping their existence but there are these demise 742 01:18:57,86 --> 01:19:03,77 in their existence the law governing residency is called the law for entry into 743 01:19:03,77 --> 01:19:09,40 Israel so it's obviously completely inappropriate to apply this law to Easter as 744 01:19:09,40 --> 01:19:14,90 some Palestinians they did not enter Israel Israel came to them and acts the area 745 01:19:14,90 --> 01:19:21,47 where they had been living maybe for generations and then imposed Israeli law on 746 01:19:21,49 --> 01:19:27,55 them including the citizenship and entry into Israel law by the end of one thousand 747 01:19:27,56 --> 01:19:33,51 nine hundred sixty seven Israel had complete control over the land and its people 748 01:19:34,29 --> 01:19:40,96 it was time to put its policy to work the game in Jerusalem was the MacGuffin 749 01:19:41,72 --> 01:19:46,68 is that our inability was directed their words the land they needed the land to 750 01:19:46,69 --> 01:19:51,95 build settlements to create further on the ground who are used demographic 751 01:19:51,96 --> 01:19:56,52 superiority confiscating land from the Palestinian speak aim 752 01:19:56,53 --> 01:20:00,19 a regular practice Israel's desire for 753 01:20:00,20 --> 01:20:03,63 a large Jewish capital in Jerusalem led to 754 01:20:03,64 --> 01:20:09,73 a massive land grab Palestinians resisted the theft of their lands and the 755 01:20:09,74 --> 01:20:14,34 destruction of their lives but the bulldozers was stronger. 756 01:20:18,58 --> 01:20:25,58 The confiscated lands soon became harm to massive settlement projects in new East 757 01:20:25,62 --> 01:20:32,40 Jerusalem by nine hundred sixty nine the first Israeli families moved into remarked 758 01:20:32,40 --> 01:20:39,35 . Israel's first settlement in East Jerusalem the war of facts on the 759 01:20:39,36 --> 01:20:46,17 ground and demographic balance was underway home construction in 760 01:20:46,18 --> 01:20:52,77 East Jerusalem was booming but it's not for everyone for a Palestinian to obtain 761 01:20:52,78 --> 01:20:55,26 a building permit he must go through 762 01:20:55,30 --> 01:21:01,95 a long and costly process which can sometimes take up to ten years and 763 01:21:01,96 --> 01:21:07,68 sometimes the cost of the permit is more than the cost of the building itself 764 01:21:08,48 --> 01:21:11,26 forcing the Palestinians to build without 765 01:21:11,30 --> 01:21:17,55 a permit and when they do the Israeli police and bulldozers await 766 01:21:17,78 --> 01:21:18,43 the. 767 01:21:32,65 --> 01:21:35,75 Don't have the Ganesh Well issuer he says and. 768 01:21:41,30 --> 01:21:48,30 Lot can happen to. Them Santa Ana knows the. Convincer who's going 769 01:21:48,31 --> 01:21:55,28 to. Do. The most of things that when we went 770 01:21:55,29 --> 01:22:02,23 over all. The. Other 771 01:22:02,24 --> 01:22:07,58 one is the one. On the lawn in the. 772 01:22:09,43 --> 01:22:15,64 The hunt for the fault is sort of valid. Although my fish out of 773 01:22:15,65 --> 01:22:19,97 a lot. But. All. 774 01:22:25,86 --> 01:22:30,05 Bite I believe will seemed out of the showed me. 775 01:22:37,07 --> 01:22:37,18 As 776 01:22:37,19 --> 01:22:44,31 a little. Commotion few moments in the moment and. Then added to the 777 01:22:44,32 --> 01:22:50,01 roof. Was going to move the dunes he was one of the ones noone heard of well about 778 01:22:50,02 --> 01:22:50,71 and has been in the. 779 01:22:59,34 --> 01:23:05,91 Lawman long. Used. To know why do. 780 01:23:45,92 --> 01:23:48,39 I the group here are MANY it at that. 781 01:23:52,59 --> 01:23:56,61 Membership the right one but I'm appreciating the circus rider member I'll let me 782 01:23:56,67 --> 01:24:01,30 know if you say if I'm legit but then he and I must. 783 01:24:03,90 --> 01:24:04,74 Have looked them apart. 784 01:24:11,20 --> 01:24:17,41 Room. Filled with everybody and I mean if you're going on 785 01:24:17,42 --> 01:24:21,12 a mission of I did some I mean you don't you don't we are drawn I mean I've been 786 01:24:21,18 --> 01:24:24,76 a guy. That. 787 01:24:31,69 --> 01:24:35,62 Was was. 788 01:24:41,49 --> 01:24:41,62 Not 789 01:24:41,63 --> 01:24:48,69 a hint of. A lot. Older to be you know him and. Some didn't 790 01:24:48,70 --> 01:24:48,92 isn't. 791 01:24:55,10 --> 01:25:02,02 The. Film was that the and by the way. 792 01:25:06,10 --> 01:25:07,56 It was 793 01:25:07,57 --> 01:25:17,56 a scene I haven't seen on and there was. Nothing I was. On 794 01:25:17,57 --> 01:25:23,21 the roof had to be made or whatever unless what the appear to have. 795 01:25:32,95 --> 01:25:35,41 Only. One thing to do. 796 01:25:44,63 --> 01:25:50,87 In the little one is that it and. Then the boot the men's and the men of. 797 01:25:53,39 --> 01:26:00,36 The young in nothing more. Than. One hundred for the. B.M. 798 01:26:00,37 --> 01:26:03,80 First with them Bill Ron Paul B. 799 01:26:03,81 --> 01:26:04,37 I will admit. 800 01:26:20,35 --> 01:26:25,65 I am demolition is one component of Israel's demographic policy that has been 801 01:26:25,66 --> 01:26:32,62 tossed to the Israeli Ministry of Interior this ministry dominates every aspect of 802 01:26:32,63 --> 01:26:39,16 Palestinian daily life destroying their homes confiscating their I.D.'s and 803 01:26:39,17 --> 01:26:41,98 denying them the right to live together as 804 01:26:41,99 --> 01:26:47,30 a family in the Sudan as well if we show it out on them so now you're monitoring 805 01:26:47,50 --> 01:26:52,24 the security fences here you have consciously in your head and a chef 806 01:26:52,25 --> 01:26:58,92 a joy to be on. Family unification is another tool used to drive Palestinians 807 01:26:58,96 --> 01:27:03,78 out of Jerusalem Michele 808 01:27:04,22 --> 01:27:07,62 a Palestinian from Bethlehem is married to come and 809 01:27:08,18 --> 01:27:15,09 a Palestinian from Jerusalem common and Michele a fighting to stay together as 810 01:27:15,10 --> 01:27:19,64 a family a Palestinian from Jerusalem who marries 811 01:27:19,65 --> 01:27:23,44 a Palestinian from outside you recently has to go through 812 01:27:23,45 --> 01:27:30,40 a process which Israel cools family unification this involves 813 01:27:30,45 --> 01:27:36,01 applying to the Ministry of Interior to grant your spouse to mission to live with 814 01:27:36,02 --> 01:27:42,79 you in Jerusalem. When our sentiments are was enough 815 01:27:43,80 --> 01:27:49,96 imagine. Them at. My fish well. 816 01:27:54,08 --> 01:27:55,56 There. Is 817 01:27:55,57 --> 01:28:02,01 a bit. Of on hold for. Cheryl. 818 01:28:03,30 --> 01:28:10,25 They're not going to be always at the moment. Even though you're there what. I 819 01:28:10,26 --> 01:28:15,91 would that. Be so fun Amish. 820 01:28:18,34 --> 01:28:20,28 Palestinian from Easter Islam marries 821 01:28:20,29 --> 01:28:24,29 a Palestinian from Ramallah there's no place they can legally live together the 822 01:28:24,30 --> 01:28:28,97 Easter Islam I should not be living in Ramallah officially and there are Mullah 823 01:28:29,23 --> 01:28:34,68 resident is not allowed to live inside Jerusalem that is not acceptable that is not 824 01:28:34,69 --> 01:28:41,62 acceptable because because this is part of our human rights that 825 01:28:41,66 --> 01:28:46,34 everyone has the right to marry this power he or she wants. 826 01:28:48,70 --> 01:28:49,48 And right to them. 827 01:28:55,49 --> 01:29:00,79 With any color you can. Jimmy L. 828 01:29:01,02 --> 01:29:04,12 A senior high school student is suffering from 829 01:29:04,13 --> 01:29:10,48 a rare life threatening condition an operation is needed and it is needed now. 830 01:29:14,44 --> 01:29:19,55 That your. Middle. 831 01:29:21,44 --> 01:29:27,42 America what about your second born I look at the kids of our generation and I say 832 01:29:27,42 --> 01:29:34,17 . Will this be for something like this to happen to 833 01:29:34,18 --> 01:29:40,54 a Jewish minority in Belgium the Jewish minority in America. Or in our 834 01:29:40,55 --> 01:29:47,52 lifetime allow it to happen two hundred meters from my window this corruption Jimmy 835 01:29:47,82 --> 01:29:53,23 is still hoping that Israel will one day grant him an ID card to give him the 836 01:29:53,24 --> 01:29:59,76 opportunity to travel for medical treatment Michelle in common the still 837 01:29:59,77 --> 01:30:06,34 hopeful that one day their family will be united until then Michelle 838 01:30:06,35 --> 01:30:11,72 continues to live in Bethlehem and Carmen and the children in Jerusalem. 839 01:30:18,00 --> 01:30:23,52 The Christian community in Palestine made up twenty percent of the population in 840 01:30:23,53 --> 01:30:29,75 one thousand nine hundred forty eight today it's less than two percent and is 841 01:30:29,76 --> 01:30:32,07 shrinking at an alarming pace. 842 01:30:36,33 --> 01:30:42,92 Since one hundred sixty seven immigration was excellent and we are worth it 843 01:30:43,58 --> 01:30:49,99 because the recent statistics they say that the main reasons for the immigration of 844 01:30:50,00 --> 01:30:55,61 Christians and Jews from Jerusalem is the unstable political situation. 845 01:30:57,05 --> 01:31:02,62 It's the occupation is the difficult the difficult you know the comic life 846 01:31:03,97 --> 01:31:10,45 so people opt to leave. Even though it's Christmas time 847 01:31:10,97 --> 01:31:12,95 the Christian quarter stands as 848 01:31:12,96 --> 01:31:19,92 a shadow of its former self when one of our schools the model of we us the you 849 01:31:19,93 --> 01:31:21,68 know one of the odd teachers the make 850 01:31:21,69 --> 01:31:27,42 a survey and we were surprised to find that it the percent of order to live with 851 01:31:27,43 --> 01:31:33,78 not ever and the reason why I'm the one. With the. 852 01:31:35,46 --> 01:31:41,85 Thing the. The. 853 01:31:45,48 --> 01:31:50,83 The occupation has forced many Palestinians to leave their country in search of 854 01:31:50,84 --> 01:31:57,33 a better life elsewhere those who choose not to join in the exodus like Michelle 855 01:31:57,34 --> 01:32:04,14 and Common have to pay the heavy price just to stay together. For now 856 01:32:04,68 --> 01:32:11,58 common sweetie trips between Jerusalem and Bethlehem will continue the 857 01:32:11,59 --> 01:32:17,52 hierarchy of. The. 858 01:32:26,36 --> 01:32:31,26 High is to marry. Is that. 859 01:32:34,62 --> 01:32:37,85 The surface on. The ocean years are. 860 01:32:56,39 --> 01:33:03,11 No. You 861 01:33:03,39 --> 01:33:03,84 know you. 862 01:33:20,82 --> 01:33:22,43 Well Palestinians deal with 863 01:33:22,44 --> 01:33:28,46 a demographic policy that aims to contain their growth in the cities Palestinian 864 01:33:28,47 --> 01:33:29,09 lands 865 01:33:29,27 --> 01:33:35,59 a subject to wave after wave of land confiscation for settlement building leaving 866 01:33:35,60 --> 01:33:42,33 the Palestinians with no room to develop or to live for most Palestinians 867 01:33:42,72 --> 01:33:48,73 land is their most significant possession and is passed on from generation to 868 01:33:48,74 --> 01:33:55,54 generation. Day inherited the family home 869 01:33:55,55 --> 01:34:01,47 from his father he never got the chance to enjoy his inheritance because Israel 870 01:34:01,48 --> 01:34:05,54 decided to confiscate the land around his house to build 871 01:34:05,55 --> 01:34:12,12 a new settlement the land that was confiscated belonged to his village L G 872 01:34:12,64 --> 01:34:19,41 A suburb of Jerusalem today it is physically separated from its confiscated 873 01:34:19,42 --> 01:34:24,89 lands so far day to reach his village or his house he has to go through 874 01:34:24,90 --> 01:34:28,31 a checkpoint one hundred meters from his front door. 875 01:34:33,71 --> 01:34:39,90 Loveman. Loss for the had the sort. Of Luck of the shot 876 01:34:39,91 --> 01:34:43,21 a celebration. Of the young son 877 01:34:43,22 --> 01:34:47,10 a. Soldier bottom of the sea for Sheikh. 878 01:34:52,25 --> 01:34:56,52 And there with food. Because. 879 01:34:59,40 --> 01:35:06,22 Of the houses in. The boundary of the shanty most of 880 01:35:06,23 --> 01:35:12,51 them with water of give. Them sort of more out of the body with that idea and with 881 01:35:12,52 --> 01:35:17,81 it on the wall when I. Want them a little joke and 882 01:35:17,82 --> 01:35:22,72 a headline I like the animal and the head but I have to leave it that you haven't 883 01:35:22,73 --> 01:35:27,77 read the help that. They can leave. Out of the relativity of 884 01:35:27,78 --> 01:35:34,43 a vacuum at the county in these really mind the problem is the more graphic the 885 01:35:34,44 --> 01:35:40,26 more graphic there are present as a community 886 01:35:40,30 --> 01:35:46,92 a different community which express in different ways on their daily 887 01:35:46,93 --> 01:35:50,56 basis there that they are different. 888 01:35:54,47 --> 01:35:58,59 Than the sort. Of assume one of the couple in the can if the. 889 01:36:01,82 --> 01:36:02,32 Only That's 890 01:36:02,33 --> 01:36:09,53 a hell. Of. A 891 01:36:09,54 --> 01:36:14,62 narrow haircut was going on in. Those. 892 01:36:17,61 --> 01:36:23,24 Days story is not unique it is the story of the Palestinians in Jerusalem 893 01:36:23,95 --> 01:36:30,09 confined harassed and cut from the rest of their people in one thousand nine 894 01:36:30,09 --> 01:36:32,77 hundred ninety three Israel instituted 895 01:36:32,81 --> 01:36:39,24 a closure policy on Jerusalem prohibiting to this day over three million 896 01:36:39,26 --> 01:36:45,89 Palestinians from entering Jerusalem this also happened to be the year that 897 01:36:45,93 --> 01:36:52,31 Israel signed the Oslo peace agreement with the Palestinians. The impact of the 898 01:36:52,32 --> 01:36:58,53 closure of Jerusalem has been devastating particularly given the only specialized 899 01:36:58,54 --> 01:37:05,52 hospitals in Palestine are located in East Jerusalem Palestinians outside of the 900 01:37:05,53 --> 01:37:11,12 city seeking medical treatment must go through an endless process to request 901 01:37:11,16 --> 01:37:16,35 Israeli approval to enter Jerusalem after 902 01:37:16,36 --> 01:37:21,16 a long battle with the Israeli authorities the old gust of Victoria Hospital 903 01:37:21,44 --> 01:37:24,24 managed to secure a bus permit to bring 904 01:37:24,25 --> 01:37:31,09 a group of children in need of kidney dialysis into Jerusalem in some cases 905 01:37:31,43 --> 01:37:37,89 permits were only given to the children but not the parents' children as young as 906 01:37:37,90 --> 01:37:41,48 six years old must make the journey three times 907 01:37:41,49 --> 01:37:45,95 a week from all over the West Bank alone without 908 01:37:45,96 --> 01:37:51,96 a mother to hold their hand this is what this is creating anger it is because the 909 01:37:51,97 --> 01:37:58,63 basics of life for the Palestinian mother is is is being violated if the other 910 01:37:58,64 --> 01:38:04,86 cannot work up with dignity and I insist with dignity escort her child to buy less 911 01:38:04,87 --> 01:38:09,71 assertion the whole family will be an angry family and once there is anger when you 912 01:38:09,72 --> 01:38:16,70 don't know how to control any political outcome Jerusalem is also home to the Al 913 01:38:16,72 --> 01:38:23,17 Aqsa Mosque and the holy sepak. Millions of Palestinians have been deprived of the 914 01:38:23,18 --> 01:38:26,47 right to worship and visit their holy places. 915 01:39:39,72 --> 01:39:41,93 That the. 916 01:39:55,51 --> 01:39:59,47 Many. Checked. To make it. 917 01:40:04,96 --> 01:40:05,27 Because. 918 01:40:31,71 --> 01:40:38,56 But at the end of the song just gave up 919 01:40:38,64 --> 01:40:45,43 and decided to go back home and like every American just below. That some 920 01:40:45,52 --> 01:40:51,62 got ready to have their Friday prayers at the checkpoint. And the lucky ones made 921 01:40:51,63 --> 01:40:57,74 it on to the boss and were on their way to chew and swallow. The the moon the. 922 01:41:02,55 --> 01:41:08,72 Moon the. Moon the. 923 01:41:09,92 --> 01:41:14,96 Moon. The moon the. Moon the for the. 924 01:41:16,94 --> 01:41:17,97 The the. 925 01:41:26,18 --> 01:41:33,09 The the. The Japanese. Now they have to go through another 926 01:41:33,10 --> 01:41:40,01 round of checkpoints in and around the old city some were pulled aside and were 927 01:41:40,02 --> 01:41:41,36 arrested for not having 928 01:41:41,37 --> 01:41:48,32 a punt and switching recently the time is running out and if you 929 01:41:48,33 --> 01:41:52,86 haven't reached your Resulin by now it's for this Friday. 930 01:41:54,81 --> 01:41:59,07 Was there was. 931 01:42:16,19 --> 01:42:19,15 There was the urge to. 932 01:42:29,06 --> 01:42:32,56 Her any. 933 01:42:37,45 --> 01:42:38,15 Of the. 934 01:43:03,57 --> 01:43:08,61 The checkpoints along with the settlements were created to physically cuts 935 01:43:08,62 --> 01:43:14,78 Jerusalem from its motherland in the West Bank the project that Israel began in one 936 01:43:14,79 --> 01:43:19,99 thousand nine hundred sixty seven has started to bear fruit twenty three 937 01:43:19,99 --> 01:43:26,88 settlements and twelve checkpoints exist in what Israel now calls greater Jerusalem 938 01:43:28,04 --> 01:43:34,18 Israel's objective to cuts Jerusalem from the West Bank and to create irreversible 939 01:43:34,20 --> 01:43:41,13 facts on the ground is working settlements now or Q Python thirty five percent of 940 01:43:41,14 --> 01:43:47,08 East Jerusalem as land and account for more than seventy percent of the growth of 941 01:43:47,09 --> 01:43:54,01 the Jewish population in Jerusalem Jerusalem is indeed the front line and the heart 942 01:43:54,17 --> 01:43:56,59 of the Palestinian Israeli conflict 943 01:44:01,34 --> 01:44:07,87 if Jerusalem is the heart of the conflict the Old City is the heart of Jerusalem 944 01:44:08,74 --> 01:44:15,47 the most fought over square kilometer in history home to the Western Wall the 945 01:44:15,48 --> 01:44:22,33 Church of the holy sepals the Al Aqsa Mosque and the dime of the rock every 946 01:44:22,39 --> 01:44:29,19 inch of this place is holy sixty five churches twenty five mosques and 947 01:44:29,20 --> 01:44:31,67 nineteen synagogues in less than 948 01:44:31,68 --> 01:44:43,04 a square kilometer. If 949 01:44:43,06 --> 01:44:49,47 Jerusalem is the heart of the conflict and the old city the heart of Jerusalem then 950 01:44:49,51 --> 01:44:56,28 this place is the heart of the matter. To the Jews it is the Temple Mount 951 01:44:56,76 --> 01:45:02,79 the site where their first and second temples stood and it is also the site where 952 01:45:02,80 --> 01:45:09,08 many Jews believe the third and final temple should be rebuilt for the 953 01:45:09,09 --> 01:45:11,63 Muslims it's the Ox 954 01:45:11,64 --> 01:45:18,10 a mosque and the Dome of the rock for the last one thousand five hundred years 955 01:45:18,49 --> 01:45:20,31 Muslims have called it how them 956 01:45:20,35 --> 01:45:25,16 a Shareef where Mohammad ascended to heaven to meet God 957 01:45:28,26 --> 01:45:33,65 The battle for control over the old city is different to the rest of Jerusalem 958 01:45:34,58 --> 01:45:37,76 there is no room within the old city walls to build 959 01:45:37,77 --> 01:45:43,61 a huge settlement to play with its demography So the battle here is over the 960 01:45:43,62 --> 01:45:47,87 existing homes of Palestinian Christians and Muslims 961 01:45:53,34 --> 01:45:54,97 a tad Carney is 962 01:45:54,98 --> 01:46:01,29 a leading settler organization its main objective is to change the demographic 963 01:46:01,30 --> 01:46:08,10 makeup of the old city by repossessing homes from Palestinians these homes 964 01:46:08,36 --> 01:46:11,100 marked by Israeli flags can easily be spotted 965 01:46:17,49 --> 01:46:22,83 the settlers are infiltrating the Muslim and Christian courters although not 966 01:46:22,84 --> 01:46:27,98 a single Muslim or Christian family is allowed to live in the Jewish Quarter 967 01:46:30,00 --> 01:46:35,67 the Palestinians are aware of the targets going names intentions but the settlers 968 01:46:35,72 --> 01:46:41,82 have very powerful allies on their side including the Israeli government along with 969 01:46:41,83 --> 01:46:46,38 substantial funds from right wing Christian groups in the U. S. 970 01:46:47,93 --> 01:46:51,02 In one thousand nine hundred eighty seven the settlers recruited 971 01:46:51,06 --> 01:46:55,39 a powerful neighbor Arielle Sharon who repossessed 972 01:46:55,43 --> 01:46:59,76 a house in the Muslim quarter. SHARAN has never spent 973 01:46:59,77 --> 01:47:05,04 a night in this house but has left no doubt about his support for the settlers. 974 01:47:06,27 --> 01:47:12,46 The the settlers are indeed powerful and connected 975 01:47:13,38 --> 01:47:17,71 and every year they get the chance to parade their power when they march in 976 01:47:17,72 --> 01:47:24,47 Jerusalem to celebrate what they call the unification of Jerusalem this 977 01:47:24,48 --> 01:47:31,15 year they are celebrating their fortieth anniversary Ironically this is the day 978 01:47:31,19 --> 01:47:34,13 when Jerusalem looks as divided as ever 979 01:47:35,38 --> 01:47:40,77 a massive police presence flood's the city so that the settlers can march in and 980 01:47:40,78 --> 01:47:46,48 around the old city the old city is shut down and the Palestinians 981 01:47:46,52 --> 01:47:52,97 a kept under curfew no one is allowed to enter only until the marches are. 982 01:47:54,96 --> 01:48:00,84 Thank you Aoun was 983 01:48:01,23 --> 01:48:08,01 yanked there are glass walls with the way in the communities 984 01:48:08,44 --> 01:48:12,16 we do not have the same education system we don't have the same guns but there's no 985 01:48:12,17 --> 01:48:17,61 system with don't share the same language we've gone to work at the same places 986 01:48:17,62 --> 01:48:21,82 with. The communities have 987 01:48:21,86 --> 01:48:28,34 a separate city centers business centers services almost everything is divided 988 01:48:28,53 --> 01:48:35,04 the the Israeli demographic policy has brought 989 01:48:35,08 --> 01:48:39,31 nothing but misery and despair to the Palestinians and 990 01:48:39,32 --> 01:48:46,23 a sense of insecurity to the Israelis after forty years Israel and 991 01:48:46,24 --> 01:48:52,58 its settler organizations are losing the war of demography especially where it 992 01:48:52,59 --> 01:48:59,29 matters most the old city. The population of the Old City is 993 01:48:59,30 --> 01:49:06,08 thirty five thousand of which Palestinians make up over ninety percent the 994 01:49:06,09 --> 01:49:12,17 Palestinian high birth rate has kept the Palestinian population growing they have 995 01:49:12,18 --> 01:49:19,01 been squeezed into every available space but they are not leaving Jerusalem and 996 01:49:19,02 --> 01:49:22,58 according to Jerusalem municipality figures in 997 01:49:22,60 --> 01:49:28,78 a little over twenty years Palestinians will make up fifty percent of the city's 998 01:49:28,79 --> 01:49:35,54 population. At the same time Jewish population growth keeps 999 01:49:35,56 --> 01:49:42,27 declining for the last twenty years more Jews have left the city than have 1000 01:49:42,28 --> 01:49:46,53 entered it for secular Jews Jerusalem is 1001 01:49:46,54 --> 01:49:53,21 a tense intolerant poor overly religious and divided city 1002 01:49:53,85 --> 01:49:59,79 we left people ready so many people are voting by the legs and Fords to simply walk 1003 01:49:59,80 --> 01:50:04,36 out of the city the Palestinian demographic growth has been 1004 01:50:04,37 --> 01:50:11,19 a problem for Israel from day one Israeli politicians openly describe it as 1005 01:50:11,20 --> 01:50:17,92 a biological bomb growth cancer and fertility weapon so what do they do 1006 01:50:18,77 --> 01:50:19,84 they build a wall 1007 01:50:20,60 --> 01:50:26,68 a nine metre high wall that segregates the city's neighborhoods based on ethnic and 1008 01:50:26,68 --> 01:50:29,06 religious grounds which pushes 1009 01:50:29,10 --> 01:50:36,03 a quarter of the Palestinian population in Jerusalem outside the city measure 1010 01:50:36,04 --> 01:50:41,99 that this pair is that this right in front of us right here was the road that used 1011 01:50:41,100 --> 01:50:48,93 to run from Jerusalem Ivan the side of the through to Jericho. Over hundreds and 1012 01:50:48,94 --> 01:50:54,49 hundreds of years of the main road and there are that were runs right through the 1013 01:50:54,50 --> 01:51:01,26 middle of that ride and people. I'll come back. 1014 01:51:04,25 --> 01:51:07,17 If you ask Israel what's the wisdom of building such 1015 01:51:07,18 --> 01:51:14,16 a wall they'll tell you it's for security in recent years militant 1016 01:51:14,17 --> 01:51:19,33 Palestinian groups have sent thirty eight suicide bombers to West Jerusalem 1017 01:51:19,92 --> 01:51:26,72 claiming the lives of one hundred seventy one Israelis Jerusalem has at times 1018 01:51:27,02 --> 01:51:30,51 looked confused bloody and ugly. 1019 01:51:40,44 --> 01:51:45,80 Watching the path of the wall leaves you with great doubts about any security logic 1020 01:51:46,52 --> 01:51:52,43 it's snaking path around the city in Cooper rates Jewish settlements and pushes out 1021 01:51:52,46 --> 01:51:59,17 populated Palestinian neighborhoods clearly exposing its real goal to seal and 1022 01:51:59,18 --> 01:52:05,21 solidify Israel's grip on the city and separate its completely from the rest of the 1023 01:52:05,23 --> 01:52:11,84 West Bank signaling to the Palestinians the Jerusalem is off the negotiation 1024 01:52:11,86 --> 01:52:18,38 table this is the building over here 1025 01:52:19,25 --> 01:52:19,100 was meant to be 1026 01:52:20,01 --> 01:52:27,58 a. Part of. And 1027 01:52:27,59 --> 01:52:30,62 it had a view. And they have 1028 01:52:30,63 --> 01:52:34,99 a wall runs right in front of the never got finished kind of 1029 01:52:35,00 --> 01:52:39,60 a symbol of the state that almost got stuck at the rest of the neighborhood never 1030 01:52:39,61 --> 01:52:43,28 allowed developed and them out of Bush. 1031 01:52:50,71 --> 01:52:55,77 Or up Will. Be Cheney. Who. 1032 01:53:00,61 --> 01:53:02,39 I think the wall is 1033 01:53:02,40 --> 01:53:07,27 a problem and I've discussed this with Ariel Sharon it is very difficult to develop 1034 01:53:07,28 --> 01:53:11,21 confidence between the Palestinians and the Israel Israel with 1035 01:53:11,25 --> 01:53:15,95 a wall snaking through the West Bank the war is 1036 01:53:16,80 --> 01:53:23,73 a way to turn back to the policy the whole thing the 1037 01:53:23,74 --> 01:53:29,73 concept of war is an attempt to convert the Israeli Palestinian conflict into 1038 01:53:29,74 --> 01:53:34,77 Borders for one manifestation is God Well the other one is the war 1039 01:53:36,74 --> 01:53:39,56 on the back couldn't care less what happened in the other which is 1040 01:53:40,72 --> 01:53:43,36 a change of Russian or 1041 01:53:43,37 --> 01:53:49,24 a change in the perception of of the Palestinians by the right of the underestimate 1042 01:53:49,25 --> 01:53:53,90 that because before they just discarded the whole thing Palestinians are not 1043 01:53:53,91 --> 01:54:00,77 important menage will now they know they're not much so they created 1044 01:54:00,78 --> 01:54:06,28 the border fence and following the Palestinians for the other side of 1045 01:54:09,77 --> 01:54:15,64 the Israeli conquest of East Jerusalem and the policies that followed to change the 1046 01:54:15,65 --> 01:54:22,50 status of the city has been condemned by almost everyone in the world not 1047 01:54:22,51 --> 01:54:27,94 a single country recognises the Israeli occupation and annex ation of East 1048 01:54:27,95 --> 01:54:29,86 Jerusalem not 1049 01:54:29,87 --> 01:54:36,42 a single country has an embassy in Jerusalem. And countless United Nations 1050 01:54:36,43 --> 01:54:43,14 resolutions have been. Condemning Israeli policies. Not 1051 01:54:43,15 --> 01:54:46,93 a single one has been respected all implement. 1052 01:54:51,63 --> 01:54:56,64 Between Israel's disregard for international law and the reluctance of the 1053 01:54:56,65 --> 01:54:59,61 international community to intervene in 1054 01:54:59,62 --> 01:55:04,68 a meaningful way the Holy Land continues to boil and. 1055 01:55:07,65 --> 01:55:14,39 The passion for the soil and stones and Johnson has captured its peoples and thrown 1056 01:55:14,86 --> 01:55:15,19 into 1057 01:55:15,20 --> 01:55:27,08 a span of violence discrimination oppression and occupation. What 1058 01:55:27,09 --> 01:55:34,05 is lacking. City. The city that is united in name 1059 01:55:34,89 --> 01:55:38,19 but divided in the hearts and minds of its people. 1060 01:55:46,37 --> 01:55:52,08 When the Stones of Jerusalem become holier than its people than Doesn't Jerusalem 1061 01:55:52,09 --> 01:55:59,02 lose its holiness there is no shortage of solutions for sharing Jerusalem 1062 01:55:59,28 --> 01:56:04,71 in a way that saves its people and preserves its holiness but that is 1063 01:56:04,72 --> 01:56:11,36 a shortage of well to end the occupation and respect each other's ties to the land 1064 01:56:14,78 --> 01:56:15,43 permitting 1065 01:56:15,47 --> 01:56:21,84 a racist demographic policy that denies Palestinians of the right to live in their 1066 01:56:21,89 --> 01:56:28,45 own homes were not put anyone on the path to peace. Ending the 1067 01:56:28,46 --> 01:56:31,39 illegal occupation when. 1068 01:56:35,13 --> 01:56:36,13 Live was leave 1069 01:56:36,24 --> 01:56:42,16 a loaded gun lol you 1070 01:56:42,17 --> 01:56:47,21 flew you. Live was 1071 01:56:47,74 --> 01:56:54,34 a real ugly A. Good the hood up 1072 01:56:54,35 --> 01:57:01,23 done. Food 1073 01:57:01,31 --> 01:57:07,50 food. Food food. You know those 1074 01:57:07,51 --> 01:57:12,51 floats Muslim you. 1075 01:57:15,01 --> 01:57:18,30 Oh you. Don't know. 1076 01:57:22,73 --> 01:57:28,69 Who. Do we owe you 1077 01:57:28,70 --> 01:57:34,43 a good. Good good. 1078 01:57:35,58 --> 01:57:38,82 Dog. Would. 1079 01:57:51,35 --> 01:57:51,64 Love. 1080 01:57:58,94 --> 01:57:59,63 Lucky. 1081 01:58:05,64 --> 01:58:10,01 Enough. One son I. 1082 01:59:00,57 --> 01:59:02,38 Independent media is the hope.